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Exploring Horror Movies of 2024
What makes a horror film unforgettable? With the Halloween season in full swing, we're diving into the eerie, the spine-chilling, and the downright terrifying. Join us as Erica graces our microphones once more, guiding us through the shadows of horror movie recommendations perfect for this spooky time of year. Max shares a serendipitous story about how a chance encounter led him to secure a filming location, highlighting the power of community connections in the filmmaking industry. Plus, reflections on our past casting episode have left us nostalgic and eager to revisit some classic films that continue to haunt our imaginations.
Ever wondered why some horror icons, like Leatherface, don't make the Halloween costume cut as much as others? We reminisce about childhood horror experiences, from the visceral terror of witnessing "Texas Chainsaw Massacre" way too young, to the modern chills of "Terrifier 3." As we navigate the cultural significance of these franchises, we also ponder the shift in horror trends. With remakes like "Smile 2" captivating new audiences and innovative films blending horror and thriller elements, the genre is ever-evolving. Our conversations touch on the effective storytelling of movies like "Bodies Bodies Bodies" that blend traditional horror with fresh twists.
As we uncover new horror phenomena, our discussions lead us to unexpected cinematic experiences, like stumbling upon a movie without prior knowledge and being utterly mesmerized by its unfolding narrative. We explore the joy of discovering films like "Apartment 7A," a prequel to "Rosemary's Baby," and the unique cinematic expressions found within. Our episode closes with a celebration of the evolving horror landscape, where we honor the nostalgic resurgence of early 2000s horror, Rob Zombie's unique take on classic films, and the creative liberties filmmakers take to breathe new life into the genre. Expect personal insights, community connections, and a shared love for horror's timeless appeal.
how's it? I'm alex macaulay and I'm max fosberg, and this is excuse the intermission. A discussion show surrounding halloween, october 31st, is right around the corner and for those who celebrate, this is the best time of year to fire up a scary movie. So ahead on this episode, max, myself and erica will give our recommendations for spooky season movies and talk about some of the latest horror releases from the year 2024. That conversation up next on the other side of this break. All right, we're back. We're all in studio together again, reunited. Erica, how do you feel? Have you thought at all? Have you reflected on our casting episode? You think we did a good job. People are saying it was a fun one yeah, I had people are saying people are saying kaylee was listening.
Speaker 2:Today I heard her howling in her in her office.
Speaker 1:Yeah, got some good good feedback on that one yeah, you feel like we did a good job oh, I think so.
Speaker 3:I think that we all each had such a different list too, you know, and I had such a fun time compiling my list and then listening to your guys's, and then it even inspired me to go home and just add some things to my watch list.
Speaker 1:So I was almost inspired to fire up Mean Girls Like it's been a while and when I went back and listened to it. I was like that was a, we were all dialed in on that. That was a really that was a fun one. That was a good one. Shout out sal for joining us once again, and then max, you're back in the studio. Crazy last month, I would say for all of us, of course but, but you needed to to recharge the batteries a little bit.
Speaker 1:Give us an update. School film fest super crazy stuff. You're writing your thesis project right now, so how? How's it been?
Speaker 2:uh, yeah, busy, busy, busy. Uh, what I had. What three film. We had three film fests in three weeks. Uh, school had also just started back up. Um, the first draft of, uh, my next film is written.
Speaker 1:Uh, I've got one lead cast already cast, I've crewed up, all all good, and, uh, we have a target date for shoot, shoot dates and and today, actually randomly, I may have secured a location, so for at least one of the one of the days, which is really exciting, um, which is a cool little supermarket, oh wow, here in tacoma so see, this is what it's funny, because you know the grand cinema I don't know if you opened up your like exit ticket email thing that they sent out feedback on the festival from this year, and something that I put on there was that you know I loved all of the community events, all of like the seminars and the discussions down there in the lower lounge.
Speaker 1:However, I do think that a lot of those conversations ended up just like kind of circling back to the same idea and and it's a good idea, and I'm not knocking the grand or that the tacoma film festival, I guess I should be saying or anybody who was leading those discussions, because not everyone came to like we were there for all of them right so we heard the same thing a few times over and again.
Speaker 1:That's not an issue, really, because there are new people coming, so they were hearing it for the first time. But what you just said is a testament to what kind of the main messaging was of those discussions. Is that, like, sometimes it just falls into your lap. It's not what you can buy, it's who you know. Being in a community like this that isn't charging a premium, that there isn't like a market for, for locations, you kind of feel that a little bit during this, this chance encounter.
Speaker 2:Absolutely. It was very serendipitous that I walked into a market and an old friend was behind the counter and then, you know, it was very easy to meet the owner and be told that oh yeah, we've had people shoot stuff here before and of course you can use it and like we're happy to accommodate whatever your schedule is going to be?
Speaker 1:Oh my gosh.
Speaker 2:And so, yeah, yeah it is. That's kind of how it goes sometimes and I'm so glad that I was out actually at the real grocery store not the real grocery store, but a bigger grocery store.
Speaker 1:Listen, I feel the exact same way. I feel the exact same way. Sometimes I feel like even a Safeway isn't a real grocery store.
Speaker 3:If I only go in for four items.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's all about intentionality, right, like if you go with the intention of filling your cart, then you're grocery shopping. Sometimes you just like are stopping by someplace, doesn't matter if it's a 7-Eleven or a Fred Meyer.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and I just happened to see a sign on my way home and I drove past it and I was like, oh, wow, happened to see a sign on my way home and I drove past it and I was like, oh, wow, I should go check that out one of these days. And I was like you know what, I'm out right now. And I turned around and, uh, this, this meeting, happens, so very happy about it. Uh, of course, we're keeping it all under wraps.
Speaker 1:I was like you're being very cryptic right now.
Speaker 2:So, yeah, well, full steam ahead, though we're very, very, very excited about it.
Speaker 1:Can't reveal your sources and have every film crew in Tacoma? The greater South Sound area. Rush into this.
Speaker 2:Hey, you know what? Tacoma, tacoma, tacoma's pretty awesome. Fuck Seattle, and we're happy to be filming in Tacoma.
Speaker 1:You both just sat through some traffic too on your way back here. I appreciate you guys being here tonight. I think we're all really excited to talk horror films, but also it's getting cold out, it's getting dark out earlier, but we're here for scary movies, all of us no matter if we were talking on mics together or not.
Speaker 1:Max and I did an exercise like this a few months ago when Cuckoo came out, because cuckoo was kind of the last bookend of that summer run of horror films alien, romulus, long legs, a few other things kind of in between there. So, erica, we're really excited to have you on this episode. You love scary movies. We haven't aside from the substance and a few things recently we haven't really gotten your like a pulse check your origin story about horror like where, where, where does horror begin for you?
Speaker 2:like what do you remember the first time that you uh were?
Speaker 3:you know, your hair was blown back hmm, I feel like, okay, this is so weird, but I feel like my, my horror origin story really started with Disney Channel originals.
Speaker 1:That's good, that's so valid.
Speaker 3:Phantom of the Cinema, or whatever. Phantom of the Megaplex.
Speaker 1:Megaplex yeah. My mom's got a date with a vampire yeah.
Speaker 3:I mean, I could go on and on. I was thinking I've thought about that so many times like where did it all begin for me? And I want to reach for Halloween, because that was one of the first movies I was allowed to like rent at Hollywood Video and Gig Harbor, and I have a very vivid memory of renting that during Halloween. But then I'm like, no, that's totally not true, because I loved, I lived for Friday nights when Disney Channel originals would come out and then, especially during spooky time, they had their whole array of movies.
Speaker 1:Wouldn't they call it like Disney's 31 Nights of Fear or something?
Speaker 3:It was like ABC Family maybe did that or something ABC Family did, like a 31.
Speaker 2:Nights of.
Speaker 3:Halloween or something like that. My dad family that was abc family did like a 31 nights of hollow or something like that.
Speaker 2:My dad just texted me about halloween town too, like, like two weeks ago it was like halloween town's on, you could watch it 45 times yeah, I, I feel like all those kind of movies, john I'm gonna unsubscribe you from all the free movie. No more pluto tv for you john turn the halloween town channel off first of all, are you watching cable and secondly, why?
Speaker 1:are you on the disney channel?
Speaker 2:is there still a disney channel I?
Speaker 1:don't disney channel, no 100. No, okay, it's not disney channel there probably is who's watching it?
Speaker 2:I don't know. I don't know.
Speaker 3:John fox, yeah but yeah, they had some. Really they had some good scary ones for kids. Like I always think of this. Oh, it's called the Scream Team. If anyone knows this movie, please DM me, because I feel like I always mess it or I always talk about this movie and people are like what are you? I've never heard of it, but that was a fun one. And then there was Don't Look Under the Bed. I remember that.
Speaker 3:Which actually was low key, really scary. There were so many. So I feel like I loved that thrill very early on. And then, of course, middle school was very, just, very formative horror years for me. We had Saw. Saw was like my first movie that I watched, that I knew I was definitely not allowed to be watching, and me and a few of my friends we would have these big sleepovers. And I remember one time I went to my friend's house and, um, we, she had had it or something, and so we're all like such an explicit feeling, Explicit feeling, right yes, Like oh no.
Speaker 3:Yeah, and when that movie came out, I mean I was very like my parents were very stern on like we're not, you're not watching that. My parents weren't very strict growing up but that was kind of a no-brainer not to watch but we did anyway. So I was desensitized from a very early age sensitized from a very early age.
Speaker 1:Let me throw a couple other like from our childhood episode slash tv movies, whatever you want to call them at you, because these were mine was. Really are you afraid of the dark?
Speaker 1:oh yes and to this day there's been a couple of episode clips, whatever on youtube that I've looked up because it's almost like I don't know, it's like emdr or something like. I need to re relive it as as like therapy to to understand, like, where it all came from. One is where I forget if it's a, if it's a guy or a girl, but someone dies in a swimming pool and then they kind of like turn into this red monster looking creature that like can go under doors and pop back up and stuff really spooky stuff with that one. And then there was an are you afraid of the dark movie? And in the movie they're trying to find kind of. There's like a mcguffin.
Speaker 1:In this movie it's like a little like it ends up being part of like one of the horse's eyes on the carousel or something like that. But so they're in an amusement park this entire time and at one point someone has to leave the amusement park, go into like the woods or this old house or whatever, and there's a well and down at the bottom of the well is like a loose cobble, a loose like brick, a loose stone or something that someone has to rappel down. And as they're rappelling down it. There's like this white face that keeps getting closer and closer as the person's like going down, and the way that it's like cut and edited is really terrifying. And I remember being like 10 years old and being like I'm really, really afraid, yeah, of this right now. And then I'm like, okay, that's the feeling that I've just been chasing for 30, 20, 20 years now or whatever is, is that?
Speaker 1:um, max, I want to hear your origin stories too, but I got to get back to the first annual tacoma halloween parade that was this past weekend as well, because I was there with our buddy, derek schneider from the silver screams podcast and we were talking to a million different people about what's your, why do you love scary movies? We were talking to little kids, grown-ups, adults, all that stuff. But, max, we'll go to you. Sorry, you didn't know about this. It was such a fun time.
Speaker 3:Maybe I won't talk too much about it. I have this look on my face just like wait, are you what it's called? What? What are you talking about?
Speaker 1:Yeah, it was incredible.
Speaker 3:We'll talk about it here in a little bit. I'm so unplugged from man that's such a bummer.
Speaker 2:My horror origin story. You know my parents. They would make a. They made it a ritual to watch some universal monster movie almost every Halloween. Yeah, and it's funny cause I've been actually going through a lot of like old um family home videos, uh, for a project at school and, like you know, my sister was like the traditional Wolfman one year, I was Dracula, one year, I believe she was Frankenstein one year. And there's also like home video. They always took video on Halloween cause we would carve punk pumpkins and there was always like some video. They always took video on halloween because we would carve punk pumpkins and there was always like some black and white. You know, I think the wolf man was on in one of the videos. So that's kind of where the horror starts. And then you know, once you get through all those, then I think you bumped.
Speaker 2:I bumped it up to like hammer from like the 60s and 70s Hammer horror movies Until eventually I vividly remember watching the Texas Chainsaw Massacre, for my first time with my older cousins who were over during, I believe, a Halloween party, and my parents just sent us all as kids down to the basement and they had rented uh, Texas chainsaw mask.
Speaker 1:So is this on the projector at your old house?
Speaker 2:No, this was before the projector, but that would have been amazing. No, this was on a little square, like you know, bubble TV or whatever, um, which is actually a little bit more frightening, um, but yeah, uh, I remember watching that, way too young, and just just being absolutely terrified by it and kind of crazy that my parents were just like oh yeah, you're with your older cousins, here you go, you'll be fine, and I must've been like eight or nine or something like that. To watch something like that is crazy.
Speaker 1:I'm glad you bring up Texas Chainsaw Massacre because that's one of these movies where you know, like at this parade and you're going to see it as kids go trick or treating and different trunk or treats wherever you're, whatever your community does to celebrate Halloween or whatever.
Speaker 1:There are the Mount Rushmore and then also kind of like the JV Mount Rushmore horror villains that are at every single one of these that young kids, that older people are dressing up as, like there's always going to be Ghostface, there's always going to be Michaelface, there's always going to be michael, there's always going to be jason.
Speaker 1:Leatherface, I feel like, is right there, in the same vein as all of them, but you don't really see too many leatherface costumes at halloween and I wonder if that has something to do with the accessibility of that first film, because, without being bloody gory, like there's no, there's no teenage sex or anything like that, and then for the most part it is just a flat out terrifying movie and like when you talk about the first nightmare, the first friday, the 13th, the first halloween, I think it hands down texas chainsaws, the scariest of all, four of those. So it's kind of funny because and then this is going to sort of bring me to Art the Clown and Terrifier. But we won't maybe go quite there yet. But like you're starting to see, like it's just, leatherface isn't very poppy. Like he's not, like it's not, he's not popular in a way that the other horror villains are.
Speaker 1:I guess it's because he's not cool, it's just so scary it's flat out scary, but it's funny that, like, maybe the most scary of these classic movies is the one that is the least represented during probably because it's too real, too right.
Speaker 2:I mean, that movie is so visceral and like you know cinema verte and documentary style. Like it is, yeah, it is probably too real, so maybe it's not a it's probably not a great entry point If you want your kids to be. Honestly probably not saying right.
Speaker 1:Can you remember the first time you saw the original? And then my second question to you, Erica, would be did you see the 2003 remake that Jessica Biel, one before you saw the original?
Speaker 3:I think I did actually. Um, you saw the original. I think I did actually. Um, I came to a lot of those movies much later because I didn't have. I mean, my parents liked a lot of the classic but like a lot of 80s horrors. I think that's when they were going to the movies a lot. But I, I don't know that I watched um texas chainsaw like the original until maybe I don't even maybe I would almost say in my like early 20s. But um, yeah, I actually kind of like the remake and also fun fact remake rips.
Speaker 1:The remake's awesome. Yeah, bring jessica biel back, yeah, yeah. And and r lee ermy as the sheriff?
Speaker 3:yeah, he's awesome, yeah when I lived in austin um, they're just like right outside of outside of Austin was a film location for the original Texas Chainsaw, which was the gas station. It's now a barbecue spot and it's also a huge gift shop for Texas. Everything horror, but mostly Texas Chainsaw. They also have like the original van there. I have a picture on my Instagram. It's like it's pretty sick, but yeah. I love that yeah, I love that.
Speaker 1:I love that franchise a lot the later installments in the franchise have actually been pretty fun and I like, and I mean that in like a, a real, um, like sicko way, where, where, like the one that was on netflix a couple years ago not fun but has like one of the gnarliest kill scenes in that bus which is so good and then, like texas chainsaw massacre, the beginning, I think that one comes out in 2006 with jordana brewster.
Speaker 1:She's kind of the. The final girl in that film was also super gritty and really dirty, and I love that film as well. There's then there's also kind of there's like the alexandra daddario one with that trey songs in it.
Speaker 1:You know, just like yeah that's another fun one and so you look at that franchise and I give a credit because they've kept making them, whereas, like nightmare's kind of falling off friday the 13th has kind of fallen off here in recent, in recent, uh years. So shout out to texas chainsaw massacre. It's having a 50th anniversary screening a weird elephant this upcoming weekend, both Friday and Saturday night. So if you've never experienced it a on the big screen, go do that. B. If you've maybe never seen it, like this is a great way. And you're into whore, even though we just were like maybe it's not a great entry point, but if you're into horror.
Speaker 2:Well, if you're an eight-year-old kid.
Speaker 1:it's not great.
Speaker 3:No, Do not bring your children to the weird elephant screening of Texas Chainsaw Massacre, or do and put some hair on their chest, I don't know.
Speaker 2:I mean don't be a bitch.
Speaker 1:Well, this is going to bring me back to the Halloween parade here. So in the McKinley neighborhood, east side of Tacoma Really cool they shut down a couple of blocks. The first annual Halloween parade for the city of Tacoma. Friday Night. Frights and the Blue Mouse Theater were big sponsors of making this happen, along with some other community agencies. So shout out to everybody that made it happen. Really cool event.
Speaker 1:Derek Schneider and I, like I said, we were interviewing people and so you can pop over to the silver screams podcast, hopefully sometime soon and and find those interviews. We were talking to so many young people like teenagers, you know, adolescents to teenagers and and it's because kind of there was no, it was basically like a farmer's market and then everyone was waiting for the parade that happened at at six30. And so we were kind of the only like interactive free booth where parents could just kind of like cruise by. We had the VHS going. Derek had bought an old TV, a player. Shout out to Max. He led us to borrow a bunch of really cool VHSs and so people are walking by and like they're seeing the ring on VHS playing in our booth and so of course they're going to stop. They see screen Of Like they're seeing the ring on VHS playing in our booth and so of course they're going to stop. They see scream. Of course they're going to stop.
Speaker 1:All these little kids are coming up because they can tell oh, I can go, I can. You know they want to touch the mics, they want to do something like that. And so Derek and I would be like put on the headphones, like do you like scary movies? So my being, when the kids are like that scream, I'm like it's ghost face. His name like not to, I didn't, but it was hard for me not to just be like his name is ghost face, not scream, whatever Stupid kid. Um, get off my fucking mic.
Speaker 1:Well, no, because then they come on the mic and I'm like what so? Have you seen any good scary movies? Some of these kids who are like six years old are like yeah, we just saw terrifier 3, please and their parents are right there and they're like off mic, like yeah it was really good and I'm like derek and I like we're not gonna again like call cps in the middle of this recording.
Speaker 1:But also, what in the fuck are you doing like all these terrifier movies? Just one up each other. These movies aren't even rated. Damian leone, the director, doesn't even submit them to the mpaa because they get an nc-17 rating. Then that like it it's. It's an interesting thing.
Speaker 2:We kind of looked it up how is he allowed to do that?
Speaker 1:well, so. So because then he, like it's supposed to and this is why people are like terror, fire 3 just changed hollywood forever, because what it's supposed to do is hurt the distribution rights when you can't have a movie. But now this is, of course, like the old model of hollywood. Is that like if your movies not quote, unquote, not rated and not submitted to the mpaa, old hollywood would say, oh well, that's, you're just, you're just not gonna. Theaters won't want that, they won't take that, they're not gonna program that. However you look at the box office return, we can get to that in a little bit. Like there's a huge it's not even a niche market anymore, there's a huge market for a film like this, that is just like over the top Go ahead.
Speaker 2:Do you think theaters are just so desperate for stuff that they're like we don't care anymore?
Speaker 1:I mean, yeah, you can only show the wild robot on so many screens, right? So it's. I mean, when you're trying to fill a theater, if you got 12 screens to fill, I think at this point, and if it doesn't like hurt the theater on the back end, it's more so to like get the director to submit to the MPAA. But then he's like, okay, well then, if I get an NC 17 rating, theaters are less likely to program something at NC 17 versus just not rated. So no one really is going to pay attention to not rated. Okay, here's my next question.
Speaker 2:If it's not rated.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Can anyone go into it, like if I'm a 12 year old kid, can I?
Speaker 1:buy a ticket to Terrifier 3? That's a great question, because it's not rated R. Yeah, that's a really good question. It's not rated.
Speaker 2:PG-13. That's yeah, that's wild.
Speaker 1:It is I did not.
Speaker 2:I did not know that about the Terrifier series.
Speaker 1:I didn't know that. I of all time. That's crazy. Yeah for him, um, which is also really good for the theaters, good for the theaters to be like, yes, we will take it, we don't care.
Speaker 2:Right, fuck the mpaa or whatever.
Speaker 3:Yeah perfect movie to have out, like right now, even though I mean I haven't seen it. But alex and I were talking about the terrifier uh franchise the other day and I have, you know, not a whole lot of interest in it, but I mean we love to see it in theaters. Like I'm happy for them, like I don't know my concern is with these six-year-olds who are watching it and these parents who are taking their kids to it.
Speaker 1:And now again, I don't know, maybe you, like we're saying you desensitize them, maybe you have this huge conversation and not when he's like splitting people in half and there is like so much blood on the screen and there's no plot, right like it would be one thing. Now you know this. I'm just thinking of another movie that has like a ton of blood or something, but like, uh, freddy alvarez's remake of evil dead.
Speaker 1:Tons of blood, very gory, but also you could kind of say like, yeah, this is a great movie done artfully done and it's a great movie about addiction and there's this really like kind of tragically beautiful story in the in the center of it, and so that almost be one where like sure, maybe if you take your 12 year old to that, then you can have some sort of meaningful conversation afterwards with terrifier 3 and art the clown, who's not saying a single word and I know they're trying to build out some sort of kind of like story arc with him, but he's just got this sadistic smile on his face.
Speaker 1:Great makeup, cool, like character design, a plus pretty iconic. You're seeing costumes like that's going to become a very popular Halloween costume year after year after year now. But this movie's not for anyone under the age of almost, I would say. Like it's, you know, 15, 16, 17, like it's a really intense ride and almost to a t. Every single young person who we talked to at this parade had already seen it and that was the other thing too because it had only been out for like a week.
Speaker 1:So we were there kind of like you're pulling the kids out of school on like a wednesday to go to terrify three.
Speaker 2:Yeah, insane, pretty wild. Have you watched terrifier three yet?
Speaker 1:I have not seen terrifier three, one and two, though I have seen, and, and just like erica said, the conversation that we had, we were both just kind of like at some point you sort of just lose interest. You start second screening, you're on your phone, you're doing something else, because you're kind of like, okay, here we go, we're walking around, we're chasing kind of nothing, nothing, nothing. And then, oh wow, five minutes of extreme brutality. And then you know, and then it's just peaks and valleys, peaks and valleys. And those are long, freaking movies too. They're like two hours and 20 minutes at least there's. You know, terror fire 2 was, and I think terror fire 3 is also over two hours.
Speaker 2:So yeah that even for like horror aficianados like us, I feel like that's a tall ask yeah, yeah, I've seen one and two, but uh, if you have to see three, but also like, yeah, after two, you know, and then that bedroom scene, yeah, I was just like I do. I need to see what is is more than this, like this is, this is gruesome, is you know?
Speaker 3:They lost me. I just watched and like paid attention to the first Terrifier movie just this past week I think, and then I put on two right after that because I had the intention of potentially seeing the new one.
Speaker 1:this past weekend.
Speaker 3:But they lost me about 45 minutes minutes in to the second one. I just kind of got bored because it to me it's just gore porn and which is I'm you know that's fine. I'm just again so desensitized that I'm just it doesn't really do, it's not what I'm needing. Like my, my heart and soul wants something else, like I want to be scared a different way. To me it just is like so unnecessary and I'm like eating dinner and like putting this on and I'm like this is gross.
Speaker 1:I'm not watching this anymore.
Speaker 3:But also clowns do nothing for me. So I think that that is a huge fear for people who just really don't like clowns. I have never resonated with that feeling, even as a child, so I just don't ever reach for like clown horror. Um, but you know, art has. I've been seeing all these videos of the guy who plays art, doing all these signs, like these autographs and you know appearances everywhere and he just everyone's like. He's so like, the guy is so nice, and so I'm like OK, what's going on with Terrifier? I got to watch this and I don't know.
Speaker 3:I am curious to see the third one and I will watch it, but I'm not. I probably won't see it in theaters. Yeah.
Speaker 1:It'll be on Shudder soon enough, I think. But going back to, it's funny because it is total gore porn and I think a lot of people would say well, you just said that you love.
Speaker 3:You know saw was one of your first babies but like I don't love that movie though, right, right right.
Speaker 1:But that first one, the first saw, does have like a magical quality to it because there's great story intertwined. It kind of introduces us to this jigsaw character that goes on to become kind of a you know a horror icon. But then it's you know five, six, seven, eight movies later and you're like okay, then this is just like how crazy can we make the kills? And that's what I feel like. These terrifier movies became a lot quicker what they will become.
Speaker 3:It's just oh my gosh four and a five on the docket serious, wow, that's just shock value, you know, and and I guess that's the trajectory of every slasher, right?
Speaker 1:Because pretty soon we're sending Jason to space, Right? And we're doing all these crazy things in the other franchises. So not that Terrifier is should be, you know, criticized.
Speaker 3:No.
Speaker 1:For just trying to up the ante. That's what you have to do. I think what we're just trying to say is when it's just kind of one note like at least Freddie can get creative with his kills. You know, like the Texas Chainsaw movies, you show us more of the family. You start doing other things like that that get interesting With Terrifier. We just haven't seen that yet.
Speaker 3:I feel like Terrifier is some kid's saw though. You know like they are at their friend's house you know, they're whoever and they're all having their little sleepover and they're like hey, do you guys want to watch Terrifier?
Speaker 1:Cause we have Amazon prime and like that.
Speaker 3:I love that for them. So you know, go watch Terrifier. You know, like, fire it up, right, do your thing, put it on.
Speaker 1:I guarantee you that most like middle school hallways. Terrifier 3 was the topic of conversation this past week. Just some final numbers on Terrifier, at least as of right now. When it came out two weekends ago, it opened number one at the domestic box office with $18.9 million and was also the weekend of Indigenous Peoples Day. So if you look at that as the holiday weekend, four day total of 21.5 and it's currently up to 41 million dollars worldwide.
Speaker 2:Wow, so that is I think the second one only made 15 so and it was considered a huge success and that's why three gets made monster, monster this is a huge, huge, huge hit.
Speaker 1:Um, one last note before we move on to kind of some more contemporary things just from the halloween parade, a few movies that got brought up, a lot that I just want to give a quick shout out to as like fun recommendations, because I haven't gone back and fired up, uh, any of these movies but hearing people talk about them when we were asking like, what's your favorite movie, the amount of people that mentioned 13 Ghost.
Speaker 3:I loved that movie. That is so funny. I have been on a Matthew Lillard kick lately I watched like a talk with him talking about his career and you know I'm a big Scooby-Doo fan over here and so that's so good that I love that Like people are watching that which got us kind of talking about all those films in that sweet spot.
Speaker 1:Like original films to varying degrees of of quality, right, but like original films. But then someone's like 13 Ghosts is actually a remake Turns out it is from like the 60s or whatever, didn't know that but like 13 Ghosts, you know Ghost Ship. There was again Session 9. Yeah, session 9 is a really good one, again, not original, but like a remake. That just felt really fun. Like the house on haunted Hill remake was really cool there right At like the turn of the century. So yeah, and we, you know we were playing the ring and someone brought up Jeepers, creepers, like all those movies are just kind of like those. Those were our coming of age, sort of like Like I love how you put it the formative years. I like when we're starting to have the sleepovers and the video rentals and stuff. We grew up in a pretty good time. We did.
Speaker 1:Like those were good, good movies to have out, and then another one that a few people brought up, jennifer's Body. I have to go back and rewatch Jennifer's Body because that movie was so mismarketed as just like a movie for horny boys who wanted to watch Megan Fox. And it's so much more than that Kind of this cat and mouse game, this attraction between Megan Fox and the Amanda Seyfried character. It's much more socially aware than it was marketed as and it totally bombed, but I feel like it's achieving cult status right now, and so Jennifer's body totally bombed, but it, I feel like, is achieving cult status right now, and so Jennifer's body needs to be rewatched, I feel like.
Speaker 3:Erica logged. Rewatched October 12th Jennifer's body. Very nice, I love Jennifer's body. It is such a cult classic. At this point and I was just. You know it gets better. I noticed more things every year that I watch it and that's definitely like I watch that like at least once a year around this time. It's a good one. Hell, yeah, Okay.
Speaker 1:So then this past weekend at the box office, another huge horror hit, smile 2, came out, opened at $23 million domestically and is at $46 million worldwide. So did 23 here in the States and then 23 internationally. A lot of people who I'm following on Letterboxd they're logging this at like three and a half four stars. They're really enjoying it. I've yet to go out and see it. My mileage kind of varies on Smile 1. I feel like, again, we're talking about an original idea. So it's really fun to think that some people are coming to horror. They're coming of age right now and they have something like this new budding franchise out there. Um, and also too, I like the. I like the design of the smile story, because not that it has to be like an anth, but it's. It can be different characters every single time.
Speaker 2:Oh, yeah, totally.
Speaker 1:So I do like that about it. I'm curious to check out Smile 2, just because I think it looks good, like it's a really good trailer. It's again. I think that you can be really creative with the kills in this story, while also maybe trying to kind of deepen the lore. Now that's where I'm like OK, how much do I really want to get invested in? When is it apples to oranges? When it's just like okay, arthur clown can just like not kill people over and over and over, but this smile demon can kill people over and over and over, and I'm gonna prefer one over the other. Um, so I I guess I'm more, you know, intrigued to see smile too. I don't know where you guys stand on smile one, really, but because I know none of us have seen smile to you either, right? Um, so kind of where, where's your level of interest with that film?
Speaker 2:yeah, I'm I'm interested in it because again, I I think you you hit it. It looks like a good movie. I in surprisingly enjoyed the original one, especially the last, like you know, 15 to 25 minutes. You know a lot of practical effects there and prosthetics and you know, the creature design that you are faced with there at the end was really, really interesting. And the fact that maybe that somehow continues on in this. Um, but also, you know, but I think it also speaks that like I haven't like gone out and been like I gotta go see smile too, yeah um the way that it was like I gotta go and see trap, right yeah right, uh, yeah, another, like also oddly another pop star yeah, similar in the middle of a horror movie.
Speaker 2:Um, but yeah, I I would love to check out smile and and again I think, because I think smile, is it rated r? Pg-13?
Speaker 1:I don't know, but it's your smile.
Speaker 2:2's rated r radar, but it does seem kind of like you know some of those franchises you were mentioning earlier, with Jeepers, creepers or Wrong Turn comes to mind. Maybe Smile is like that for this generation and so that's really exciting and I hope a lot of kiddos get to see it.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, I've only seen like the original Smile, maybe once, and it's just one of those movies. It's kind of like a C for me. You know it's like it, like I didn't see trap but I can. It just all feels like the same kind of vibe. It's not bad but it's not like great. Um, but yeah, I, I'm curious about it.
Speaker 2:I feel like I've gone to the movies with both of you this year and that trailer came on and I feel like we looked at each other and was like, oh okay, smile too coming out. You know, I would hope that smile too is like more fun than smile. I felt like smile because again it kind of dips into this like trauma. That's another like genre that's very popular right now trauma, you know porn. I don't know if you want to call it that, but like trauma trauma.
Speaker 1:Yeah, trauma core.
Speaker 2:Trauma core yeah, that's good, and that first one was very serious. It was very downer, yeah, and so I would hope this one has a little bit more fun in it.
Speaker 3:I love all the marketing for it where, like they have, like the people, have you seen those videos? Oh, yeah. Like they're people just sitting in like a baseball stadium and they're just like smiling. I'm like I love that it is it is really fun.
Speaker 1:Um, okay, so then you know we have there's been some other stuff that has hit streaming recently that I really want to talk about. The first one, which you and I, erica, brought up with sal last week and we kind of held back on a conversation. I I still have yet to see this film, but, but max, but Max did. So I'm really interested right now, based on how I know you feel about the movie and how I know he feels about the movie, to kind of just be a fly on the wall and let you guys talk about it's what's inside?
Speaker 3:Let's fight. I don't know you go first. Cause I? I'm curious, Cause I did talk about it a little bit last week and I really enjoyed it. But I saw your review.
Speaker 2:First of all, Sal, the guy that you're talking, he was referring to Jake Gyllenhaal vibes Definitely Young Jake Gyllenhaal vibes.
Speaker 3:I just missed that, I guess. Totally got it, totally got it.
Speaker 2:As soon as he came on screen I was like, oh, that's the guy, that's who Sal's talking about the leo thing, um, but uh, and this film, I think, has has a really fun premise. And you know, the bodies, bodies, bodies comparison. I thought was was pretty good, um, but jesus christ, I thought it was one of the ugliest looking films I've ever seen.
Speaker 2:And now, listen, I'm, I am, I know, I've become extremely highbrow highbrow, uh, snooty film student but like the lighting choices in this film make absolutely no sense throughout this house and it can be a party house and whatever. Maybe you have bulbs, but just the look and the editing too, which again, I think it's definitely marketed for someone unlike me. With its editing it feels so social media Gen Z like you can't pay attention for longer than 30 seconds.
Speaker 2:So we have to keep moving the camera, we have to keep intercutting things and I also think it's kind of a choice to do that to try and confuse the viewer as they're watching. But, um gosh, it really, it really bugs me. And you know, listen the filmmaker, he made a movie that's amazing. But he does. You look up his filmography. He comes from commercials and it looks and and.
Speaker 1:Granted, I think all streaming movies kind of look have to have this like artificial, like look to it right there there's, it's not, and when they don't, it's really noticeable, like that's why we love rebel, rebel ridge.
Speaker 2:Didn't, didn't have that right, yeah, so this everything looked a little plastic, everything looked a little too too crisp and uh, yeah, the editing and the look of it really, really bugged me. But you know, throughout the movie kaylee and I are sitting on the couch and we're we're trying to like remember who's who and guessing what, what's what and. And that is a fun, interactive aspect of the movie and kind of makes sense why it came out on streaming too, because if it was in theaters like if if you have everyone in the theater confused about what they're seeing and trying to figure out you know the names of everybody then, like that's going to, you know, distract you in your theater experience.
Speaker 1:Helps to have, like, the freedom to kind of talk to the person next to you, maybe.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's a double-edged sword, Like it's a perfect streaming movie, but it also, like you know, I also watched Salem's Lot this weekend on HBO.
Speaker 1:Max.
Speaker 2:I watched a little bit of that on vacation last week or whenever I was in wenatchee, and that's got that same weird look, yeah, where it just.
Speaker 2:It just looks cheap and bad and made for tv and you know, is that a movie or a show? It's a. It's a movie and that story it's. So I don't know why they keep trying to make it into a movie. That needs to be a miniseries. It's got to be like six or eight hours because there's so much time jumping and people leaving and coming back. And you could if A24 got their hands on Salem's Lot. You know it really calls for that slow dread that a24 is so good at.
Speaker 1:Um, well, I just think about some of, because when I was watching it I was kind of thinking the same thing. I was like when was the last time? Because here's another talk about like our childhood and nostalgia and things that we grew up on, that that really like tapped into something early on. For me, the rose red miniseries and storm of the motherfucking century. Storm of the century is my one of my favorite stephen king stories ever. I love that story and that was such a good miniseries and because you established this dread over the course of like you know, they would show it like it was every sunday night or something on cbs for like four or five weeks in a row. And I know that the Salem's Lot, the Toby Hooper one, was kind of presented like that. I think when it came out.
Speaker 2:I think it was like yeah, I think it was in like three parts, like a two parter or three parter, two or three parts.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 1:So return, tell Stephen King. Stories that way again, yeah, and stories that way again, yeah, and.
Speaker 2:I think his writing really, really lends itself to to a long form.
Speaker 1:When you're trying to convert it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, when you're trying to convert it to to film. But anyways, back to it's what's Inside. Yeah, you really loved this film and I watched it, or you really liked it, and again.
Speaker 1:You heard what she said a couple episodes ago godfather it's what's inside.
Speaker 2:Straight to the top uh, I don't know, tell me, tell me about your experience, because I I wonder if, if some of you, were bumping on some of the same things I was.
Speaker 3:So what you mentioned about the editing, those are. I mean, I definitely didn't. Really, I went into this movie with zero intentions just because I think I saw something online about it and I was I needed something to do one night and so I just popped it on and, um, I was just so pleasantly surprised. But when you're mentioning about the editing, there is this part like when they're going back and forth, like the camera goes back and forth from like the, the physical form, and then like what's inside you know which is the person inside, and my ADHD brain was like fucking clean.
Speaker 3:I was like what is going?
Speaker 3:on who is who I was so like they kept losing me with that, like these, like when they kept going back and forth and I was getting confused. So I do totally hear you on the editing part, now that you've mentioned it, like I was really excited to see, like hear what you had to say about it, just because I, you know these are things that I don't necessarily notice, but you're not wrong, I just I had a good time with it because you know, I'm constantly reaching for horror, but I'm always and I wouldn't even know if this is like classified as horror. I guess it sort of could be.
Speaker 2:It's interesting Cause it like toes, the line of bodies, bodies, bodies, and then also really reminded me of like talk to me yeah, yeah, that's where it's like this party drug exactly thing and and there are horror elements and, but it is more of like a.
Speaker 3:It's like a weird yeah, it's like a weird yeah, party thriller yeah, absolutely, and I like that, and you know I'm a huge fan of talk to me and so I think that, and I loved bodies, bodies, bodies. So this movie did feel combined with like with all of that, and so I just it felt new and I think that's probably like just where I'm at right now in my movie watching journey. I'm just so tired of all of these horror movies that just feel like I'm like just watching the same thing but like in a little bit different font you know, and I.
Speaker 3:So, even if there is a classic like bigger picture story maybe, um, but it has a total like a new, fresh take on it. Like x, for example, feels like a very classic 70s slasher. But just kidding, we're actually shooting a porn and we're not just some kids at like you know, at a camp or at a lake or something like.
Speaker 1:I'm looking. You're gonna love this movie so much more if you're a fan, a student, of those 70s films yeah for sure.
Speaker 3:So I'm looking for stuff that feels new, or even we're putting like a new spin on something new, and obviously that I kind of digressed there with it's what's inside, but, um, I think that's why I liked it. I had a fun time with it because I was like this is so, this is fun. I felt myself wanting much more than they gave us. I was like keep going, I don't want this to like end.
Speaker 2:And then there's like that twist at the end right um, which you know that was fun too, and um yeah, I mean definitely sets it up for a franchise, sure style. Uh, I just thought it was, or whatever I thought it was just a fun time.
Speaker 3:It was a fun watch and I was like okay, netflix, like like I don't really reach for netflix originals very often anymore and, um you know, it was just a, it was a good time yeah and again, the, the interactive experience of it when you're watching it is is is fun it is very interactive.
Speaker 2:yeah, it is yeah, and like yeah, and like it, it, it worked, it was very effective. Yeah, um, but yeah, I just sloppy. We need to get some get some gaffers on that, on that fucking film.
Speaker 1:All right, and, and then we can also have this discussion Now, another film that you brought up a couple of episodes ago. Strange darling, you love this movie. You saw it in theaters. Yes, max and I both just came to it on streamer and I think I think we're all in agreeance that this is a pretty, pretty good movie this movie.
Speaker 2:Rips and rocks, I think, is what I wrote in my letterbox review. Yeah, it's so cool, what a cool way to tell a serial killer story. Whereas it's funny because where the editing really hurts, what's inside. The editing here makes this movie so unique and special, so amazing makes this movie so unique and special, so amazing To tell a serial killer slasher movie in the style of like a Quentin Tarantino film. It was like a choose your own adventure book.
Speaker 2:Yeah, chapters where you're jumping around was really, really brilliant, and the fact that it was shot in like somewhere up here in the Northwest probably Oregon, but wow, it really looked beautiful, all on film too. They give that thing, oh yeah and that that kind of bothered me a little bit.
Speaker 3:It was like oh okay, all right I know I saw some funny letterboxd reviews. Like we get it.
Speaker 2:You're fucking it's cool that you shot in 35. You need to announce it.
Speaker 1:I don't know it's all, but it's also too kind of like you know, at the end of the you know, okay, this is like that's not taking people out of a job, the way that, like digital is taking people out of a job, and I mean by like using ai or something, but like you're seeing a lot more end credits now that include the thing that, like, no gender genitor of a ai was used in the making of this film yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:And so again watching that, and then watching what's inside, which is definitely on digital, yeah, like, ah, can't you just like you can, like, taste the shots?
Speaker 1:right, like the red, that red Pinto.
Speaker 2:Oh, that too, yeah, and the car chase like, oh my God, it was, just it was, that was the most cherry red I've ever seen. A car Just looked oh my god, it was, just it was, that was the most cherry red I've ever seen. A car just looked absolutely gorgeous. Um, I don't did you guys, I don't know if we could, we want to spoil, but like, did you see the twist from from the?
Speaker 1:jump.
Speaker 1:I mean, and that's I put this in my letterbox review.
Speaker 1:Is that, like when you know, because what I heard, just like through osmosis right, because it's not like this movie was really quote, unquote, marketed like while I'm watching football on a Sunday or something like that, but on Instagram, on letterbox you know like, I know that there's, that there's a twist in this movie, and so when I'm watching it, in my review I put like inherently, then I'm going to be like I can try to just like sort of disassociate and just like not see anything out of my peripheral vision and and try to just like stare down the barrel and watch this movie and take it for what it is.
Speaker 1:But I just like when you already know there's a twist, you're just thinking like what would the twist be? And so of course it's like the killer's not going to be who you think it is in the first five minutes or whatever you know, fill in the blank, fill in the blank after that, um, but I still feel, but then that's where the editing and the storytelling and and the, the narrative choices to do it, um, in these six different non-linear chapters, really take, took over for me and I was like I okay whether or not this ends up happening. The way that I think it's going to end up happening is kind of secondary now, because I'm just so into the film how we get there and yeah, and and processing these, these choices that the filmmakers have made, and so I loved that about it.
Speaker 1:and then there still is, there's like a twist within the twist, and that's when the wallet gets opened in the bathroom. And then that's when I was like, okay, you got me, cause I didn't see that coming. I don't know if anybody could really see that part of it coming, and so loved that part because in that, for the last like 20 minutes of the film, 25 minutes adds another new wrinkle, um, and and creates, for you know, a really fun kind of ending to the film, um. So no, I I loved it, twist or not, I don't really think that. It's like it's kind of for me it was neither here nor there if the twist quote unquote worked, because I think that, like the movie making, the style of it was just so strong that I was in yeah, this is one of those movies that, like, I just wish that everyone could have had the experience that I did with it.
Speaker 3:I mean I will, I don't know, it's, it's hard, because I want to just tell the world about this movie. I mean, seriously, one of the best movies I've seen in a really long time. But my, my experience with this is I saw one trailer, just the generic trailer they had out, and I I really like Kyle Gellner, so I you know he's our scream king, yes exactly.
Speaker 3:So he already sold it for me, just seeing him. But you know, I feel like I had my you know, know preconceived notions about this movie, just based off of the trailer. But it was 10, 30 at night, on a random tuesday I think, and I was just bored and I was like on the phone with my friend, her and I go. She lives in portland, she sometimes will go see movies simultaneously, and so I was like I think I'm gonna go see a movie tonight, like let's go see Strange Darling, like I was, like I don't really know what it's about, but let's just go.
Speaker 3:And this is a perfect, like, a perfect example of like the phrase expectation is the thief of joy. It is seriously like I had zero expectations as somebody who puts a lot of expectation on, especially my horror movies, and I mean I, it just totally took me off guard. I didn't know that there was a twist, I had no idea what to expect at all. So my journey was just a roller coaster from the very beginning. And then once I saw like the first, like the first thing, and it's like when things start shifting between their like sexual dynamic in the hotel, I was like I am sitting up straight in my, my chair and I'm like let's go.
Speaker 1:This is so not what I expected I do love all that stuff because, for people who have certain sensitivities in films, this movie shows you something that, like I, could see somebody wanting to take a fence over and then five minutes later you realize, oh, this person, like I, should not be feeling some kind of way, not, not that, like you know, your own experience is your own experience and if something is triggering, then something is triggering. Respect, however, narratively speaking, the character that you think maybe something bad is happening to it's, it's not right and so then that's really fun yeah.
Speaker 3:And so there was, like this, that first initial. You're like, oh my gosh, I think I'm watching something like totally not what I thought I was going to be watching. And then there's another twist, you know, and I just felt, like the whole I am such a queen of like I watch a horror movie and I feel like I can already predict what's going to happen. You know, it's just comes with the territory at this point and I just couldn't really. I kept trying to figure things out as I was going and it just kept kind of taking a different route. I also really loved Willa Fitzgerald's performance. I thought she was just unbelievable. She's definitely an actress to look out for.
Speaker 2:Where did she come from? Who are you?
Speaker 3:Where have you been? We love you. Honestly, I just think, like her performance was amazing, this, I could argue, was kyle gallner's best performance. I just thought that, like you know, we see him in a lot of supporting roles throughout horror. I mean, I know there's a movie called the passengers that's on my watch list with. I think that came out last year american diner american diner yeah, um. So yeah, there's. There's definitely a lot of movies from him that I haven't seen either, but I just 2010's remake of a nightmare on elm street.
Speaker 3:That's it, yeah, so great really actually a good performance that kyle has been eating he's been in it.
Speaker 2:He's been in a ton of movies every year, yeah. And he's only getting better yeah.
Speaker 3:I know.
Speaker 2:Better and better and better.
Speaker 3:And I love that for him and I just visually this movie. I loved just the aesthetic of it. It's so me. I mean I felt like someone took my heart and like put it on screen, like seriously, I just was. Like I immediately called my friend after we both got out of our movies and I was called my friend after we both got out of our movies and I was.
Speaker 1:She was like oh god, this was just your thing, wasn't it?
Speaker 3:she really she loved it too, yeah, but it was like just I wish everyone else could have like had that same experience, and unfortunately, with the internet it's nearly impossible, because I saw this movie on a whim and I I had the first.
Speaker 1:Within the first week it was out.
Speaker 3:I saw yeah, just a few days after it came out and um, yeah, I hadn't really seen anything about it and you know there's been a lot of like over hype that's ruined movies for me this year and um, it's just, this was so refreshing, but I understand why people like you know Alex is like I saw the twist coming and when people say things like you got to go in as blind as possible, that's, that's very courteous and kind of those people.
Speaker 1:I know However like that, in of itself, is telling you to like be on guard.
Speaker 3:I know and that's like I, just I want. I'm like you think I'm getting paid to promote this movie or something, cause I'm just like, please go see it.
Speaker 3:Like it's so good but but it's like, how do you convince somebody to go see it without giving any, any way? And and then, yeah, of course, like ask me like, oh, like, have you seen any good horror movies lately? And I'm like straight darling. So they, they already like are expecting some big thing. And um, not to put so much credit on myself like that, but I mean, you know, I hype it up so much to them. And then it's like that expectation's already high and it's like I just wish I could just be like just go see it, don't look anything just just I don't know, you know, and um, I just wish more people could have experienced it that way.
Speaker 3:But I'm glad people I like, I'm glad you guys liked it?
Speaker 1:how did, how did you interact with the twist?
Speaker 2:so I, I didn't know, I didn't know about a twist coming, uh, throughout the movie, I just knew that it was about a serial killer, um, and so, yeah, going in and and pretty, pretty blind, and uh, yeah, as soon as the power dynamic starts to shift in that, that sequence, um, you know, edge of the seat, yeah, cause you're just like, oh, oh, this is not where I thought it was going at. For, you know, because at first, with the, with the non-linear storytelling, you're just kind of like, oh, maybe this is kind of what people were talking about. Like, you know, it's pulp fiction, but of a serial killer chasing someone, that's that's really interesting, first off, and it's shot on film and oh, wow, yeah, and you meet this older couple and you're like maybe there's something that the older couple is into and it's like stumbling
Speaker 3:upon the pawn shop. Yeah, pulp fiction like what happens here.
Speaker 1:Yeah, what are these guys into?
Speaker 2:they got a gimp in the basement, yeah but then when the twist actually happens yeah, I I had no idea it was coming, and you know, and I I was locked in and and I've I was hooting and hollering and and yeah, I really really enjoyed it. And then again, you know, the second twist is just like yes.
Speaker 2:I, like I, you know I love my scream keen, so, but yeah, man, I, I, this movie is it's special because it is able to surprise you and even if you're listening to us right now and you haven't seen it, fire it up, because it is a really, really great experience.
Speaker 1:It's going to engage you, no matter what I wish. I saw it in theaters so badly.
Speaker 2:That would have been so fun In a packed theater. How full was your theater, was it?
Speaker 3:well, I was seeing it she's like a tuesday, yeah there was. I think I was.
Speaker 2:There was maybe one other person, wow that still is cool though, but like, think about, like oh, I would have died to see it in like a packed theater there, with everybody, a collective of people yeah, that would have been wild.
Speaker 1:Yeah, um, okay, so strange darling. Highly recommend on demand. Right now you got to pay to see it, um, if you want to watch it at home, but I'm sure it's going to find somewhere um to live here, in in the near future because that'll play really well on demand.
Speaker 1:I think it'll have, it'll have a huge, oh yeah, so many more people come to it in that, in that sense, another streamer that I've been hesitant to talk about it and I'm going to be honest, it's because I haven't finished it, but that's also by design, because I'm in a really good place with this movie right now where I've stopped it and I just it's not that I'm nervous, but I'm anxious.
Speaker 1:For what? And I'm not anxious, or else I guess I would have watched it. So I guess it is a little bit of nervous. Energy. Apartment 7a the rosemary's baby prequel, okay. So I'm about an hour into it, okay, and I'm having a great time, great time, a great time with it, okay, and so I am just a little now. I'm just at this place where I'm like, when I come back to it, I have to understand that they just they might fumble the bag here and in the back half, but everything that julia gardner is doing is really, really good.
Speaker 1:Everything that diane weiss is doing to play the ruth the ruth character is incredible, like she has. Or the, the character that, uh, you know sapperstein, the character that ruth gordon played, because ruth gordon wins an oscar for her performance. She has the voice down and it it is not. It's that fine line between we were talking about this last week with the casting episode where, like, when you are doing when, when you're um, when you're acting as the same character, but you're not doing, you're like um, you're acting as the same character, but you're not doing you're like you're impersonating them, you're not like doing a character of them.
Speaker 1:So I feel like she has her own, she has her own way of doing the voice that is Ruth Gordon's voice, because they are playing the same character, but not where. I just feel like you're like impersonating them. You're, you are, I don't know you're impersonating them, you are, I don't know. It's tricky, it's a fine line. Sal said it really well and it makes sense, right, because he does improv. But I'm trying to figure out exactly how to say where it's not an impression, it's not, that's it.
Speaker 2:It's not an impression, but it's, you're like just I don't know he was talking about with Obi-Wan, I remember.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I know what you mean Great podcasting words sometimes, but but so anyway, she's great.
Speaker 1:She's great in in the role there and the imagery is is there's a wild dream sequence, much like in the first one. Now the first one, now the first one. What Polanski did? It's so creepy. Talk about a good sense of dread being built up over a runtime. That's incredible. The big dream sequence in this one where the cult makes a move, I'll say on Julia Gardner's character, to try to get her to bear the son of the devil, the Antichrist, wild stuff like really fantastical. Um, dancing has a huge part to play in this film and so, visually speaking, I've enjoyed what I've seen so far. The performances really good, the set dressing, all of it, like the bramford still looks really good. Um, is it a musical? No, it's not a musical.
Speaker 2:Okay, I've heard people, maybe that's just like we're traumatized from joker, yeah maybe people are just like making fun of joker, but they're like yeah, apartment 7a yeah, the rosemary's baby prequels is a musical.
Speaker 1:The. The dream sequence is very musical, where where, um, you know, it's almost like something out of black swan, where, like a hallucination, where, um, she feels like she's doing one of these auditions that she's been going for and there's just, there's like good bot, and you think about the original Rosemary's Baby, kind of a body horror film, some good body horror in this, where Julia Garner, she's like really badly sprained, almost like fractured her ankle, dancing, and this is something else that Derek and I were talking about this past weekend. Folks were asking us like, kind of what's your trigger? And horror Like, and I was like, I guess mine, the more I think about it, this is also because a very intoxicated woman like fell down on the pavement next to us and I heard her head hit the cement, but like, I know, sorry, um, but like, but like that's, that's it for me.
Speaker 1:And scary movies like Bones Cracking, football football and football injuries on Sunday are never, are never fun to watch, even though we do, and we send each other clips of them because we're psychopaths, but yeah, there's. So there's a couple of times in this where her ankles getting worked over and over and over during these auditions, and so there's a bunch of really good stuff like that. That is just like kind of making you squeamish, giving you that sense of dread. It's not like rosemary's baby is a slasher, right. So this movie doesn't need to be quote-unquote, scary and um in the sense that you would hope like one of these iconic franchises would go about remaking one of their films. This movie can just be a slow burn and, again, from what I've seen, it's pretty effective. So far, so well that's, that's good, that's good to know.
Speaker 1:Yeah, paramount plus, I give them credit. And it doesn't look. It doesn't look shitty like, it doesn't look like salem's lot. No, it certainly doesn't look like sam's lot, salem's lot and the the look that I think max is trying to talk about. Correct me if I'm wrong, but everything just like looks real, like glossy and commercially you know, this.
Speaker 1:This looks sharp, this looks like it's filmed with like legit cameras with good lighting, and so I, I've, I've had a good time with apartment seven a so far, but those of you who know me, who've been listening to this podcast, rosemary's baby's like hollowed ground, and so if something goes awry in the back half, I'll probably just never mention it.
Speaker 2:Um, keep that. Keep that to myself, alex McCauley's baby they in a way.
Speaker 1:In a way, the year is one Um.
Speaker 3:I've never seen Rosemary's baby.
Speaker 1:So this, I've only seen it once, the thing about the thing about Rosemary's baby is that it is in the sense of like the way that I think the shining gets a ton of credit for being one of these first quote-unquote like epic kind of elevated horror films rosemary's baby did, and you know so many things did that before. Rosemary's baby did it there at the end of the 60ies. Polanski himself did it earlier in his career with things like repulsion and knife in the water. But it is for its time at the end of the sixties and you think about some other stuff that came out in the sixties. You know, like Hitchcock made psycho in the sixties, Rosemary's baby Same decade.
Speaker 1:Yeah, same decade, same year, actually, I think. Living dead 68, living dead 68, right, I believe. So, yeah, same years. Rosemary's baby um, just it, it accomplishes so much with doing so little. But I'm also I would be, I would be so curious to what you think as a horror fan. But I also feel like you might have a little bit of that like godfather relationship to it. Um, hopefully not though, because I can get over you not liking the Godfather.
Speaker 2:I don't know, if I can get over you not liking Rosemary's Baby.
Speaker 3:Have either of you gone and seen Megalopolis, by the way? No, no, not really.
Speaker 2:God damn it. No, why did I torture myself?
Speaker 3:I kind of did, but I I stopped it so you want.
Speaker 1:You didn't go and watch it, but you were watching it I'm like, can I talk about that? Um no you were watching a little chat later um, but so that's another fun one that's floating around out there on streamer right now.
Speaker 2:Apartment 7a I totally forgot about that film. So I'm glad, I'm glad you've checked it out and I'm glad to hear there's a positive feeling. Uh, because I you know why why do anything with rosemary's baby?
Speaker 1:I'm well, I'm kind of happy that it's just like it's out there and I haven't seen anybody be super critical of it, but it's also like it not, it didn't come out and make really any noise, yeah. And so I'm in in a world where it's either like this is you know, this is the coolest thing ever, right? This is in the canon, this is with the witch, this is with hereditary, this is all this stuff or it's shit the fact that nobody really had an opinion on this, and maybe that's a bad thing because nobody saw it, but we're okay. We're okay In the Brantford still, so that's a really solid one. Okay, so should we do a couple of our favorites from the year, then? Or is there anything else?
Speaker 2:Yeah, I haven't checked out anything else. I really wanted to check out Oddity.
Speaker 1:I can't remember about this film.
Speaker 2:I think thing I really wanted to check out oddity, yeah, about this film. I think it's an irish folklore horror. Um, I would check that out. It's somewhere on streaming.
Speaker 3:I did watch that yeah, what'd you think?
Speaker 3:it was okay. You know, again, it's very much a slow burn, um, there's really not a lot going on. I mean, there's and there's this element to the film where they're she, you know, she brings in this wooden doll, I guess, and it's like a, you know, human. I'm like a human life size, whatever, um thing, and without it just didn't really make a whole lot of sense in the story. I was kind of like, what are we doing with this? It was just, I don't know. I watched it with my parents and, um, I had also heard, you know, a lot of hype around it. Just, just like good things, people like, oh, this is a good one, and um, you know it, I'm such a snob though so it was just like it did nothing for me.
Speaker 3:Um, I think I don't know, it was just kind of boring, just very much a slow burn Okay.
Speaker 1:Speaking of folk horror. Just, you know, a random parade, goer came up to the mic and recommended because we were talking about, you know, the elevated horror, the A24 brand, folk horror. And they said, if you like folk horror, a movie that came out last year called Lord of misrule and it's on Hulu right now. So I added it to my watch list. The the letterbox line is when, when the daughter of a town's new priest goes missing during the harvest festival, a desperate search begins. Uncovering the town's dark history and resurfacing tales of a mysterious malevolent spirit that demands sacrifice sounds pretty cool. So that's, that's solid. I mean, that's kind of what you want like.
Speaker 1:I don't know if that's chat gpt, if you're just like you know, because that sounds pretty basic, but also like I'm here for it in a way. You know um. So yeah, I think I think we'll fire that up here at some point. Lord of misrule lord of misrule yeah, um, but okay.
Speaker 1:So I mean, at the risk of I think we've done a good job, we've probably only been going, or we've been going for like an hour so far and we haven't yet turned this into a podcast about the first omen it's, it's coming, it's. My mom just groaned oh, she's always like oh, you talk about, is that first?
Speaker 1:omen movie again. Right, I mean. So from the last time we did this exercise, my list hasn't really changed at all, aside from the substance, cracking not only my my top horror films of the year, but it's my favorite movie of the year in general. Um, and we just had, you know, a discussion. I feel like I've been talking about that movie at nausea. I'm here recently, like when derrick and I were at the parade, we did a whole hour on it. Um, over for silver screams podcast feed and so yeah, I mean der saw it.
Speaker 1:Derek went and saw it. Derek loved it. You know, I think the movie maker in him was really stoked on the effects, the set design, the costumes, all that stuff. And then of course we got into the performances and how cool it is to see Demi balling out and how great it is for Cor Lee to get to tell this story, and the fact that it's like still such I mean you look on letterbox and still, I think one of the top three most popular films, um, like it's maintained a pretty good place in the culture, I'd say, over the last, over the last month or so, since it's been released, and so just really exciting that that the substance wasn't just, you know, like a two weekend thing or whatever I think it's. I think it's here to stay as far as like one of the bigger, um, really interesting films of 2024.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, you know, my list hasn't changed much either. Substance, of course is is in there at the three spot as far as a top horror movies of the year. Strange darling is also um popped in there. Yeah, yeah, and it's actually in my top 10 for overall in the year. Uh, so really, really enjoyed that. But yeah, maxine, you know, cuckoo, they're still. They're still uh, surviving there. Um, uh, I don't know if I got a chance to talk about they call her death. Last time we did this I, I don't think so.
Speaker 2:This is an extremely, and again it's a very. You know it's shot on 16. It's made by a guy named Austin Snell, who I had the pleasure of meeting up at the Grand Illusion in Seattle. It's a spaghetti Western.
Speaker 1:Argento Perhaps you did bring this Argento horror movie.
Speaker 2:So it took like three or four years to make. It's very independent, very low budget but, man, it held my attention. It's got some psychotronic horror elements to it. Is that the right? I think that's the right term when it's like more, you know it's dealing with the character of death, but it's got some great gore, some great practical effects, all you know, within the camera, a lot of miniature work. So, yeah, they call her Death. I don't know if it's available anywhere. Um. So yeah, uh, they call her death. I don't know if it's available anywhere, but, um, very cool, very cool independent, low budget film that looks and feels you know, as it's a huge love letter to those old sixties and fifties movies. Nice.
Speaker 1:Okay.
Speaker 3:Like one of my thing. I was kind of thinking about this in anticipation of this episode and it's obviously not categorized as horror, but it gave me a very like kind of the reaction that I'm talking about needing, and that was civil war, um, you know it's love this pick. Yeah, it's. It's such a good movie and it's so violent and tense the entire, I mean for most of the movie that I would almost like add it into like I mean, it's definitely not like you know, it's not horror, it's definitely like a thriller drama.
Speaker 2:I wouldn't say it's not a Halloween movie.
Speaker 3:But it's the horror of war, yeah.
Speaker 2:And you're right, that tense, like you know, built up feeling you get that and also like there's parts where you don't want to watch.
Speaker 3:Right, and there's parts that you're just like it's just kind of shocking too. I mean I went and saw it and I was in a packed theater for that and there was a lot of reaction happening, um, and then I, my dad, saw it. He watched it at home and was like he came to me and was like I watched civil war and oh my gosh, I just I mean he was so serious, like he was like this was scary to me and this was crazy. And um, I, I like, was just trying to think and like looking at my top 10 of of the year, and you know, I have strange darling in there. The first omen, of course, um alien romulus is up there for me, because I just it's up there.
Speaker 1:I still in my top 10.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's a, that's like a haunted. I mean honestly if you, if you take away all of the alien like franchise stuff franchise stuff around it very sci-fi horror, you know yeah it's sci-fi horror, but it's also like a haunted house, like it's. These kids go into a haunted house where there's a monster totally yeah.
Speaker 3:but yeah, civil war was I. Civil war was great and I, just as a when I'm looking for horror these days or thrillers or whatever and stuff, I'm looking for a reaction out of myself, and so maybe it's not going to be categorized as that, but in my opinion it did the job, you know.
Speaker 1:Civil War is like organic, cage-free chicken breast. That's not where I thought. Listen, listen whereas like. Whereas like, the purge is like off-brand that is so true you know like that's the chicken, that's like three dollars a pound or something like that yeah, like the art house purge.
Speaker 1:It totally is right, you're so wow, that's because when you were just talking about it as like, oh, it's not a horror film, but it's thrilling, I'm like where have I said this before in a very and feeling like in a very similar way? The purge movies, right where those are just like microwaved versions of, yes, the the real artistic story that is underneath civil war and what, um you know kind of a political climate like that could turn our society into. You're like. You're like Pat Mahomes of of podcasting.
Speaker 2:He's been doing it for over 200 episodes.
Speaker 1:He's looking this way, and then he just gets him with the little, see this guy twirl there.
Speaker 2:See him twirl there, wow.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Free range chicken Civil War.
Speaker 1:Civil War is organic free range chicken.
Speaker 2:That's a great call, that's a great call.
Speaker 1:So is your number one of the year. The substance yeah. Yeah, okay.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:I mean, yeah, my top five go the Beast, Alien, Romulus, Long Legs. The First Omen and then the Substance.
Speaker 2:Mine is from five, we're going five to one. Cuckoo Maxine, the Substance, Strange Darling, First Omen, Nice.
Speaker 3:I need to do a little rearranging. Maybe I need to do a little rearranging. I'm maybe, but right now my top five is the first omen dune, alien romulus, civil war. The substance I did rewatch civil war recently this is your top five horror oh horror, I thought we were talking about.
Speaker 1:Those are basically all horror, except dune, though yeah okay, well, that's not true. I mean listen it is scary when Rebecca Ferguson ferguson's doing the voice.
Speaker 3:She could do it to me all day, but like still pretty intense they are all pretty like intense movies I guess, but I thought you were just reading off. No, um, I did love maxine, it was fun. It was not a little bit of a letdown, but, um, it's a little goofy in parts.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it was still fun when kevin bacon's chasing maxine through the set of psycho, yeah, with the chinatown looking like chinatown, yeah, yeah but I did really like speak no evil too.
Speaker 3:I know he had did an episode on it and I had a lot of fun with that, but my list is pretty solid already.
Speaker 1:A few other recommendations 2024 recommendations for folks. Also, though, maxine Pearl was another big one that people brought up at the parade. People were just like I love Pearl from a couple years ago. I was like cool, good to hear. But I mean, immaculate is worth checking out. I think Trap is a lot of fun. Quiet place. Day one is pretty fun at times. Stop motion, I mean. I think since the last time that we did this episode max, you have now seen stop motion, erica, you would love stop motion, stop motion, stop, stop motion might kind of tap into that, that thing that you're looking for. Oh, I did watch it. You did watch stop motion okay, did it not?
Speaker 3:no, not no, oh it's.
Speaker 1:I mean, I didn't I didn't think it was all that gnarly no, not at all interesting no yeah.
Speaker 3:No, it wasn't really my cup of tea, honestly, I kind of pop in here and see what you rated it I think I just gave it a. What did I give it? Like probably I don't even know, you just logged it. Yeah, I don't think I just gave it a. What did I give it?
Speaker 1:Like, probably I don't even know that I you just logged it. Yeah, I don't think I rated it. You just watched it.
Speaker 3:I did really. I'm looking through my list Lovely, Dark, and Deep. I know that you Was that a it's down there.
Speaker 1:It's down there somewhere.
Speaker 3:That's a good. That was a fun one was.
Speaker 2:I can understand why people like it, but it just wasn't my thing I'll keep beating the drum for infested. Yeah uh, the french spider movie oh yeah that movie's really fun. It's like attack the block, but in france with huge spiders. That's pretty great yeah, yeah, that's a good creepy crawly one for this. Uh, this halloween also one I actually I would love to re-watch, um, because I think it's like way too low on my on my overall list right now. But, uh, in a violent nature I think.
Speaker 2:I think about in a violent nature every once in a while like and I don't know if I'm thinking about it as like, wow, what a rip-roaring horror movie, but but more of just like that movie was really relaxing. I'd like to watch that again and it's got some it's like horror, asmr, yeah, and it's got this crazy kill on the cliff. So, yeah, in a violent nature, it's out there.
Speaker 3:I'm surprised I haven't heard either one of you guys talk about Long Legs.
Speaker 1:So Long Legs was one that I was chatting with somebody on the mic about at the parade as well, and I was asking them. They were like you know what I really really liked the first half and then the back half was when it got a little goofy for me. And then I asked the person I said are you familiar at all with the story of Twin Peaks? And they're like I love Twin Peaks and I was like I think there's a lot of similarities again and I kind of stand by this of the Twin Peaks story and the Longlegs story because so much of the Bob character in Twin Peaks is this like evil entity that comes from the Black Lodge that kind of controls these parents or in these adults in this town and makes them do different things, much like in the way that Nicolasolas cage's character of long legs is sort of just like able to grab and harness this, this evil energy and and in this way, you know, he kind of manufactures it into these dolls or whatever, and the dolls are the thing that go go into these households and then kind of take control of of the parents and cause them to do these heinous acts to their family. But again, I'm just seeing the similarities, like the Pacific Northwest aspect of it all, this whole thing about, like you know, the Twin Peaks story is all about Laura Palmer and it's her dad doing it to her. And there's a similar thing here with the Michael Monroe character and it's like the moms have been hiding something from her for this entire time.
Speaker 1:So just I mean and I've only seen it the one time, but the more I talk to people about it and the more I've kind of find myself like defending it as as this story that's really it's really cool that they incorporated this like kind of black magic in this, in this like dark other world aspect to the story and didn't just and I, you know I've I've listened to the Oz Perkins interview on the big picture and when he's talking about how like yeah, I wanted people to think I was making seven or silence of the lamb, but like I got all these other ideas about my own childhood and grown up and my dad being Anthony Perkins and him hiding something from me and my mom knew it the entire time and just I'm like fuck man, like this is awesome and it's shot Well, the performances are good.
Speaker 1:So because I keep looking, you know, I look at my my top list of the year. Like you know, a couple times a week I'm just like I'm I'm totally fine with it being in my top five because I think it's a really well-made film yeah, it didn't work as much for me and I think I had a big problem with the black magic back half ass aspect of it.
Speaker 2:Um, but again, like that, some of that, some of that first stuff with nicholas cage and I've only seen it the one time too, so I I'm probably due for a rewatch before the end of the year um, but some of that, some of that front half a nicholas cage stuff is is really frightening to think about and and was frightening in the moment. So, um, it's a little lower on my list, yeah where have you settled on it?
Speaker 3:well, I this was a big disappointment for me and I I didn't really love it. Um, but I do like I do agree with all of the feedback about the the front half of the movie being pretty good and solid, but I just think once they started to bring in the um, the doll thing and every I don't know it, they lost me and max and I saw it together with kaylee and there's people laughing in our theater and like we did not have a good we didn't just yeah I was.
Speaker 3:This was one of those movies that I had really high expectation for, and that's that's my bad, you know. But how, how could you blame me?
Speaker 1:I mean really because that that was the intent of the marketing was again to make you think that what you were seeing.
Speaker 1:And now that's almost to the film's detriment. Because then when people aren't like and I talked about this on our first one, they were almost at a lose lose, because if you would have just done silence of the lambs or seven people would have been like, well, yeah, of course it was cool or whatever. They just did silence of the lambs. But then if you do something different from that and the marketing is like scariest movie since silence of the lambs, and then when it's not that, because it's not really trying to be that, you know that's the marketing, that's whatever tagline, the uh, you know the studio wants to put on the trailer, like that's. It's just shitty because that's not really the movies.
Speaker 3:That's not the film's fault, that's not osgood perkins fault yeah, yeah, yeah, it's just the marketing felt very misleading for that.
Speaker 1:You know, and um and um, I it worked, though we made a hundred mil it absolutely did work and kudos to them for it.
Speaker 3:But man, they really got.
Speaker 2:Oz Perkins has another movie coming out, another Stephen King adaptation.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, that looks cool. Um. So, okay Now what I would like to also kind of do here we talked about, you know, go out, check out what repertory screenings are happening at your local theater. I mean, you know cineplexes are doing it as well too, right now. You can look at the domestic box office right now and, like, rounding out the top 10 is like an anniversary screening or a re-release just of Nightmare Before Christmas. Hocus Pocus is like 12th at the domestic box office right now, because there's a re-release campaign going around right now.
Speaker 1:I think Courtline is going to be back in theaters again for Halloween. So go check out to see what's happening, um, you know, at your local movie theater, because chances are there's some classic the Shining or whatever. And maybe are there any other films that, like, people can fire up on streamer right now, just like some deep cuts, maybe a Blu-ray that you've come across recently, max, that you're like you know what? I want to rewatch this, or I just did rewatch this, or this is kind of a new Halloween tradition, like Halloween tradition movies for you, erica, any others that we can get some people out of here on.
Speaker 3:I actually just watched a new movie, and this is on Netflix. And what is the? Why am I spacing on her name? Anna Kendrick's directorial debut and it's called Woman of the Hour. It is kind of like a thriller, like crime thriller type of like true crime thriller.
Speaker 1:The logline on this is crazy.
Speaker 3:Yeah, thriller type of like true crime thriller. The logline on this is crazy. Yeah, um, it's basically like about this. I mean, without giving anything away, I mean she does have a smaller part in it, but it's basically about this uh, serial killer from the 70s true story who was on a dating show called the dating game back in the day and, um, their paths cross a little bit but he did go on like a killing spree in the 70s and so it's an interest. It's a pretty short watch it's like an hour and a half I think, and I watched it yesterday and I really enjoyed it.
Speaker 2:If it's, you know, if it's just you and your sweetie on, uh, you need something to fire up. Go check out possession. You want, you want to, you want to question, uh, your, your relationship, or maybe, you know, pull at the strings a little bit. Really, put it through the Rainer. Go fire up possession, uh, from from 1981, 81. Uh, how do you say the director's name?
Speaker 1:I'm pulled up right here real quick. Andre Zaloski.
Speaker 2:Zaloski's Possession, sam Neill. So I think that's a good access point. You can be like, oh, this is the guy from Jurassic Park, but just a movie that again will take you by surprise at the you know, middle, middle point of the film.
Speaker 1:So I'm looking at my activity of this film right now. First time I logged this on letterbox, October 31st 2021.
Speaker 1:And so this this recently and it's since like the pandemic has become because I watched it. That was my first time watching it. Yeah, so back in 2021, I was like, okay, I could, because I mean you watch this movie once and you're like, holy shit, I'm kind of changed. Um, so I was like this this could be a new halloween tradition of mine. Um, it's a great poll. One one that has become a tradition of mine recently is hour of the wolf. This is directed by ingmar bergman and this is like his only real forte, um, his his real like shot and making a horror film, and this movie is so unsettling and so good and so creepy. Um, it's about an artist, a painter, who he this is another one like watch this with your significant other on halloween night um see how you're doing.
Speaker 1:At the end of it they move to this um island and it's kind of deserted. But there's another, there's another side of the island that does have people living on it, and so this painter and his wife they're there and they're he's, you know, trying to focus on his work and she's just kind of meandering around or whatever, and he starts to interact with these, these people on the other side of the island, as they're walking around and things get real, aberrant, real fast, and pretty soon they're being invited over for dinner parties and it's just getting weirder and weirder and you're like what's real, what's not? Um, so just incredible stuff and a really creepy watch. You know black and white and everything like that, so a real creepy watch. Um, on Halloween, if I pulled up those logs I know that those have been logged the last couple of times Um, when Halloween's rolled around.
Speaker 1:And then here's here's a really fun one that I think taps into kind of what we were talking about at the beginning of the show, those movies that we grew up on, like at the turn of the century. There in 2000, a lot of them have been redone or we've tried to slap an aed on them and bring life back to them or whatever. Like the jeepers, creepers remakes I haven't watched any of them. Like I have no interest in watching any of them. I don't know if any of them are good or whatever.
Speaker 1:Wrong turn came back in 2021 during the pandemic, with just some. It's just called wrong turn. It's not wrong turn eight or whatever. It would be like in chronological order. And it is so good. It is so creepy and gnarly and dim and and like fucked up, and so it's, it's, it's totally, totally worth it.
Speaker 1:Um, matthew mudin is in this movie. Okay, just like completely punching below his weight class, but it's. I had so much fun with this movie and I'm thinking like this this is one that I should recommend to people more especially around our age, because they're like, wow, just like another another wrong turn movie, huh, nope, totally different. It's not just like you know, mountain people in West Virginia. It's. It's not just like you know, mountain people in west virginia, it's, it's a lot more than that one like this. If this was branded this had another title and it was like a blumhouse or an a24 movie, people would be like, you know, whatever you wanted to give its its title. But oh, that movie's awesome, but the fact that this was just it came out during the pandemic, it's another wrong turn movie Just totally got swept, swept aside.
Speaker 2:I think I remember you talking about that in 2021.
Speaker 1:A while back.
Speaker 2:I need to fire it up, yeah.
Speaker 1:It's really fun You're scrolling over there. You got one more for us.
Speaker 3:Well, I feel like I kind of gave a recommendation of a new one, but I think maybe something that I I I don't know if anyone is a fan of trick or treat oh yeah, but I think that's just.
Speaker 3:That's one of my new yeah, that's one of my new halloween rotations that I've added to my roster in the last couple years. It's it's something that I had never seen, um, until maybe like four years ago or something, and, um, I don't know how I hadn't seen it sooner. I mean, it just is so fun and unserious, but also just a perfect Halloween movie.
Speaker 1:There's something about a good Halloween movie that takes place on Halloween.
Speaker 3:When I watch every.
Speaker 1:Halloween morning and it's weird that I watch this in the morning, but House of a thousand corpses oh yeah, it's such a good movie that takes place on halloween this guy mike, it is it really?
Speaker 3:is?
Speaker 1:I mean, I don't blame you, honestly rob zombie was two for two before he was two for seven rob zombie.
Speaker 2:I actually I have to fire up Rob Zombie's Halloween this week. I'm guest starring on a pod of a schoolmate's no kidding, it's called Bottom of the Barrel. Go, subscribe and like and rate. And yeah, I'm recording an episode about Rob Zombie's Halloween.
Speaker 1:You got to crush some tape on a sherry moon. Yeah, working the night shift yeah, that's right, it's a tough beat.
Speaker 1:Um, I I listen saw that movie in the theaters when it came out. Very visceral reaction to that film and uh, you know, there's some tough stuff. There's like a bad sexual assault scene that's totally egregious in the middle. There don't need to have that, um. But there's also some other stuff in there that I I really like what zombie did in that first film to just make his own version of a story, of a story you know, that again it's kind of a lose-lose.
Speaker 1:If you just do a shot by shot, remake people like why you know, why, you know, why'd you do this? And then, if you do something completely different, people are like why didn't you just you?
Speaker 1:know you had you had the blueprint right there, you know why'd you go off book? So I think he was kind of set up to fail there. But the first one I really, really enjoy. Yeah, I could talk scary movies all day with you guys, but unfortunately that's it for us today. Check back next week to see what we're talking about. Until next time, please follow Excuse the Intermission on Instagram and the three of us on Letterboxd to track what we are watching between shows, and we will talk to you next time on ETI, where movies still matter. Bye.
