Excuse the Intermission
Alex and Max take you on a journey through film with this discussion podcast about movies.
Excuse the Intermission
Oscar Noms, and 2025's Most Anticipated Movies
Erica's back with us, and her fresh perspective is the breath of fresh air we all need as we journey through the cinematic wonders of 2025. From the latest James Cameron's Avatar movie to groundbreaking projects by indie directors, we're exploring a colorful mosaic of storytelling magic. We even touch on the latest Academy Award nominations with a dash of humor, especially when Rachel Sennett and Bowen Yang turned an early morning announcement into a spectacle not to be missed.
As the Oscar buzz echoes, we're diving headfirst into the chaos and controversy surrounding "Emilia Perez" in the Best Picture race. Awards bodies like SAG and the DGA are loving it, even if the public isn't quite so sure. The snubs are equally fascinating, and we couldn’t help but voice our discontent over "Dune Part Two" being overlooked in some major categories. Our admiration for directors like Sean Baker and Brady Corbet keeps the conversation spirited as we ponder how the ranked voting might shake things up this year.
Looking ahead, our anticipation for 2025's film releases is off the charts. Erica, Max, and I have a whole lineup that stretches from horror Westerns to neo-noir mysteries. Max shares his on-set adventures, while he reveals plans to get closer to the Hollywood action with a move to L.A. The discussion wouldn't be complete without a nod to TV and music, especially the upcoming season of "The Last of Us" and massive tours from top artists. Join us as we fuel your passion for film and pop culture in a year that promises to be unforgettable.
How's it? I'm Alex McCauley.
Speaker 2:I'm Max Fosberg and I'm Erica Krause.
Speaker 1:And this is Excuse the Intermission a discussion show surrounding our most anticipated films of 2025. It's our last show of January and, as the dumping weeks of quarter one come to an end, we can now turn our attention to some of the year's most noteworthy releases. We also have last week's Academy Award nominations to cover, so a busy episode to close out the month. Here Our conversation begins on the other side of this break. All right, guys, we're back at full strength for this episode. Erica, we missed you last week. How are you doing?
Speaker 2:I'm good. Yeah, I really enjoyed the David Lynch episode. Listen to you guys, thank you. It was making me, you know, get a little teary-eyed. Listen to just Alex and Kaylee get all emotional. But you know, it was just a beautiful episode.
Speaker 1:Truly, thank you I think much in the way of maybe transcendental meditation or the Lynchian way of doing things. There was just kind of a good flow to the conversation. I think you know we didn't really come into it with any structure, so I really appreciate hearing that there's been other people that have reached out and said you know, good job on that episode. So that meant a lot. That was a lot of catharsis right there.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I know, and also just listening to it.
Speaker 2:And also just listening to it and I had seen that there, you know, some of his kids had organized like a national like at noon our time they were doing like a little like a national meditation for him to honor his life and I just thought that was like super serendipitous that you guys started recording at noon. Serendipitous that you guys started recording at noon. And I was just like you know, I I'm I'm glad I handed it over to some like real solid, like Lynchians you know, like you guys, it was a really beautiful episode.
Speaker 1:Thank you Appreciate that, Max. How are you doing today?
Speaker 3:Doing well yeah.
Speaker 1:Tired. I've been on a set some projects for fellow students.
Speaker 3:This is the new normal for you now, bud, I'm a little burnt out, but yeah, I'm here, I am here.
Speaker 1:Yeah, we got to find I don't know. We got to find a way to get you to bed earlier or something, because this is what it's going to look like.
Speaker 3:This is what you signed up for, I know.
Speaker 1:Late nights. Oh yeah, late late nights, long days uh, so much fun though. Uh, I was up in monroe here and oh so much. Monroe known for how fun no, really fun place really fun place.
Speaker 3:monroe, really great folk. Um, yeah, no, I was working on a like a horror Western up there, uh, that I can't really say much more about, but uh, yeah, it was, it was a great time, really great time you have me at horror Western.
Speaker 2:Yeah, sounds pretty sick.
Speaker 3:I think you'll, you'll really dig it yeah.
Speaker 1:That's pretty awesome. So while Kaylee filled in for Erica last week, maxwell you were. While you were out filming. I just want to give one more shout out to the Grand Cinema and their event, their Weird Elephant screenings that they had last weekend. Really cool once again, just to see people come out in celebration of David Lynch's career. There were sold out shows both Friday and Saturday night for Blue Velvet and Mulholland Drive. The Blue Velvet crowd was exactly what you want to see, and Mulholland Drive the blue velvet crowd was exactly what you want to see. You know people hanging on every line laughing at the parts that are absurd and goofy and corny and then really locked in during the more intense parts. And then Mulholland Drive was like that was just a movie watching experience on another level, one that I hadn't had for myself in a really long time, where I packed, sold out theater, so invested and and so committed to just like being there in the moment, together and experiencing this film. I kind of saw the movie for the first time and this is after I don't know probably 10 to 15 rewatches in my life but like it was one of those where I was able to see it kind of in a new way during this screening. So that was incredible.
Speaker 1:Still more Lynch things to come here in the community the in dreams celebration of David Lynch's life, which will be at Edison square on February 7th. Really looking forward to that. So you know, look on Edison's Instagram page for tickets. You can go there in person and talk to the fine folk that that run the venue there and figure out more if you want to know, um, exactly kind of what that night is going to entail. A lot of cool creative performances though a bunch of local artists coming together in celebration as well. So really good stuff happening there. Um, so, before we get into our most anticipated films of 2025 for this episode, have you guys gotten used to saying 2025? Yet I have to write it on papers like all day, every day, and so I'm finally getting there, but still saying it out loud 2025.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 1:It's a little wild. Um, we have. We have the Academy Award nominations to reflect on. So these were released, I believe, last last Thursday at 530 in the morning. Rachel Sennett and Bowen Yang did the live broadcast. I know Max was up because I got text at like 540 from him once things started to be unveiled A tradition like no other. I'll tell you what they did.
Speaker 3:A better job this year, I think of, of trying to incentivize people to wake up and watch by having someone like rachel senate and bowen yang, some, some actual celebrities well and host this and they, they were playing to the uh absurdness of it being 5, 30 good in the morning, um, making comments about how they hadn't slept yet, and it was really funny.
Speaker 1:So I mean, there's obviously what 23 categories here that we could go through. Um kind of just want to hit on the big ones. Maybe some some prizes, maybe some snubs. So when looking at kind of the swath of best pitcher, start at the top, what stood out to you guys? Do you think there's a favorite here? I mean, amelia perez is kind of the elephant in the room with 13 nominations. That's leading the way this year. What are your big takeaways from the best pitcher noms?
Speaker 2:watched it and I'm not gonna like I'm sorry, but I've, I've seen, I've seen what I needed to see and I'm good, and I just don't understand and I'm like really plugged into this like Amelia Perez drama on social media right now, like I've. You know, when I when the nominations came out, I was just like scouring the comments and I feel like every comment was like what are they thinking? What's going on? But it's favored to win. It has literally the most nominations out of any movie 13 Oscar noms and I don't know, I don't really get it. But other than that, I'm kind of looking at the list and of course I have like my favorite movies, but I have no idea. I feel like who knows what will happen? You know?
Speaker 1:I'm glad you brought up the social media aspect and kind of the viral and it's not really a campaign, because no one's like rooting for Amelia Perez by creating these posts. However, it's entered the algorithm now and I see it every single time I log on and I know that's catered to my specific likes and things like that on Instagram or whatever, but it's just, it's a weird place to be in because you know we just spent the last couple of episodes talking about how much we enjoyed the films of 2024 and not that you know, we were ever going to see something like the first Omen or rebel Ridge or all these kinds of weird funky genre pictures that we really, really liked from this past year, represented necessarily with the nominations. But now I'm like, ah, is the public's perception of the Academy Awards and of just movies in general going to be the like? You know, for those people that don't really pay attention to this stuff, like us, is the general consensus just like, yeah, movies just continue to get it wrong, and this is why no one cares about movies.
Speaker 1:Because look at this, what are you guys doing? You're nominating. You know they, you, we, whoever the powers to be, are nominating a movie 13 times and everyone hates it. Like yeah, what are you doing? It's almost like like I'm not that plugged in to to music. I I wouldn't say compared to other people, but I'm still of the mindset to be like okay, I can see a list at the end of the year that says, like okay, your top streaming artists are like taylor, swift and drake and you know whoever else. I know that that doesn't mean that it's like a bad music year, though, but there's a lot of people that don't, and so I'm just like shit man here we are.
Speaker 3:Yeah, it's really odd. Uh, you know, you think it's a, I think it's pretty much a a two horse race right now between the brutalists and Amelia Perez and all these voting bodies, whether it's SAG, the DGA, uh, you know, the globes and now the oscars love amelia perez and and are celebrating it in large swaths. And it's it's. It's odd because every single person that I have talked to in real life, irl, does not like this movie I know, know that's everyone saying about this.
Speaker 2:like online is like, are you not paying attention to what, like the general consensus is feeling about this? And even like on Letterboxd it's like just I don't know. I continue, but I just yeah, and I listen.
Speaker 1:look at, look at the country we live in. You don't need to win the popular vote to be.
Speaker 3:That's very true, we live in you don't need to win the popular vote to be. That's very true. But I mean, I think to Alex's point that you know, yeah, I think I think it is a huge if Amelia Perez comes in here and takes all these awards, or at least a large amount, and really honestly, if it wins best picture, it will be a huge, I think setback. It will be a. I mean, people are already writing that it could be one of the worst best pictures of all time and they're going to get blowback from everywhere and again people will continue to be like, well, movies don't matter, because you know.
Speaker 1:You people who pay attention to it and try to celebrate this stuff can't even get it right, Right, Exactly and in the moment now. We've seen this happen, of course, before, but that's usually with hindsight and the benefactor of that being 2020, when you can look and say something like driving Miss Daisy, you know, and all these different things that have happened crash or green book in the moment, I think people understood that that wasn't the best win. However, it wasn't like going into that evening. People were like we're cooked. If green book wins this award, it's it's going to be.
Speaker 3:it's going to be really disappointing If Amelia Perez comes out just because, again, like you know, I understand that it's a lot of you know, there's a lot of craft that goes into every single movie that is made. It is from a French, you know, kind of legacy master filmmaker, but definitely not his best film and definitely not, definitely not the best film on this list. I mean, I'm so happy to see the substance on here, I'm so happy to see something.
Speaker 1:If you were going to power rank like your top five. What do you have them?
Speaker 3:not personal taste, but going into the evening I, I think where things stand right now I guess, yeah, as like a, as as like what I think, where, where everyone is, because the interesting thing about the academy awards.
Speaker 1:What they changed the last couple of years is ranked voting right. So if amelia perez gets, I think perez has to be the favorite right now. So if it gets a majority of number ones, that's nice for its chances. However, if other people that are maybe strong for the brutalists or strong for anora or something else, give that movie a bunch of twos and threes and it doesn't really dip below like the top four, and then there are those people you know that are going to try to counter the Amelia Perez movement and put it like in the bottom half Right, then maybe something different happens.
Speaker 3:I think it's it's Perez, it's the Brutalist, it's a Nora and then, I think, a complete unknown.
Speaker 1:Okay Is in the top five.
Speaker 3:Has taken Conclave's four spot.
Speaker 1:Okay.
Speaker 3:And then I would probably go Conclave I'm Still here Nickel Boys, substance or, you know, doom Part II. I feel like all of those can kind of interchange a little bit.
Speaker 3:I mean sadly, I think Doom Part II is in the bottom half. Um, I'm still here, a movie I haven't seen yet from from brazil, that again like that's kind of cool that that I'm still here is is in here because it is like a very, you know, small independent film from another country. Um, nickel boys, very happy to see that in here. Uh, and then, you know, there's also the wicked you know, maybe wicked's in five in the five spot there, um, because you know we could had had such a huge moment, uh.
Speaker 3:But yeah, I, I really think you know it's either going to be perez brutalist or an aura yeah, I agree, you know uh, and, and you know usually what, what's the award that we usually can tell where it's going. Is it editing?
Speaker 1:editing play, editing screenplay. I think in this case, if you start to see, you know, a lot of the below the line awards, like um cinematography go to Amelia Perez, like some of those like quote unquote, below the line awards that aren't in the big eight but that are still probably in the big 12, right then, then I think a movement's happening. You know, because it is nominated um for things like score and sound and you know, makeup and hairstyling, so many of these things that, like, I think we would have said that, like, if wicked started to win some of those, I don't necessarily think that we would think, oh, a wicked moment is going to happen here or a dune moment is going to happen here. But if the momentum starts early with Amelia Perez picking up those, those craft awards, then all of a sudden it gets a little dire and a little sweaty, going, going into like the third hour of the evening.
Speaker 3:Yeah, if Jacques is Jacques, jacques, jacques, jacques, jacques, jacques, jacques, jacques, jacques Jacques.
Speaker 1:Jacques Jacques Jacques, jacques Jacques Jacques.
Speaker 3:Jacques, jacques, jacques, jacques, jacques, jacques, jacques, jacques, where he's old this may be. You know this movie is.
Speaker 1:Is came out on netflix in the us and like how ironic would it be if this is the movie that netflix finally wins best picture for, and it's the one that everyone hates.
Speaker 2:I don't know, dude crazy, I'm gonna stay super optimistic and think that the brutalist is gonna is like, really likely to take this award. I I mean, I don't know, we'll see, I might be eating my words here in a couple months, but, um, not even a couple months, like the sad thing about that, though, is like I don't even think the brutalist is deserving because you did. You see the brutalist? Yeah, and it's.
Speaker 3:I haven't seen it it is a feat of of, you know, feat of independent filmmaking, made for 10 million dollars and all that, but like I don't think it's better than Anora we all know nothing's better than Dune.
Speaker 1:Part 2 we all know nothing's better than the substance that's the big loser, even though Dune Part 2, I still think, picked up like 6 awards or 8 awards, something Um the fact that there's just no momentum for that film going into this, going into this year, whereas part one it was sneaky momentum but there was a lot of hype for that film's craft, that 12 nominations and and we really felt like it had a good chance of being recognized this year. I'm like I don't even know. I think that amelia perez is is the one maybe a complete unknown grabs a couple of things for, like you know, costume design or whatever, just because, for whatever reason, that you know, the academy we joked about this max a little bit in a text with our buddy heath, but like the academy just loves to recognize people you know, in robes and in corduroy, like I don't give me a, a million dollars, I could costume design for for conclave. I could costume design for, uh, a bob dylan movie.
Speaker 1:You know like what are we doing here? By not I'm? I'm going down to costume design and we're not nominating Dune part two in that category all of a sudden.
Speaker 3:It's unbelievable. I don't get it.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 3:Yeah, so yeah, I mean yeah, when we're looking at the best picture and you know I touched on the directing, best directing. I mean again for Denny Villeneuve not to be at least recognized. That's going to kill me. It's just, it's really really bad.
Speaker 1:It's egregious, it's so bad.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Because I look at Best Director. I feel this way about a lot of these nominations. I look at these different categories. I simultaneously love some of the nominations and then there's like two that make me absolutely hate it. I'm like, what are we doing here? Best director, love seeing sean baker.
Speaker 2:Love seating brady corbett in there what's your second one that you don't?
Speaker 1:love seeing core corley in there. I just feel like james mangold has done this before with walk the line and like it's just.
Speaker 3:I don't think it's better than Walk the Line and it's just.
Speaker 1:It just doesn't feel it to me from the outside. Max can speak to this better than you or I, I suppose, but like there's no way have you seen a complete unknown. No but just like there's no way I think we can all agree there's no way that it's easier to direct a complete unknown than it is. Dune Part 2.
Speaker 2:Absolutely, I completely agree.
Speaker 1:There's just no way. There's no way that that's a harder task.
Speaker 2:I was rewatching Dune 2 the other day and just kind of threw it on and I'm just sitting there like and this man didn't get nominated. I just don't really get it. Like that movie like we've kind of talked about is really just feels forgotten and I'm like how? I mean I'm not even like a huge like sci-fi person, but I loved that movie and it was up in my top four like most of the year, and so for it not to get it's the highest rated film on letterbox this past year yeah, and I don't understand the the directing snub for dennis.
Speaker 2:Like I don't really get that because I agree with what you're saying about james man gold. Like I haven't seen a complete unknown. I know I'll love it, but do I think that that spot deserves to be taken from Dennis?
Speaker 3:No, yeah, you know. Yeah, then he was was in the dunes. Yeah, we were in the sand that movie.
Speaker 2:When I left the theater I remember looking at my friend and just being like it's movies like this that literally make me want to work in film. So bad Cause, imagine like, like they're on, they're like in it know, I mean, and it's just like the dedication that that kind of that it takes to create movies like that. Please recognize it, god yeah um, yeah, it's, it's.
Speaker 3:It's again like I'm looking at cinematography now. The brutalist should be there. Doom part two should be there. I Doom Part 2 should be there. I love seeing Nosferatu in there. Jarin, who is back after being nominated for the Lighthouse a couple years ago. I have not seen Maria yet.
Speaker 2:You're going to throw Amelia Perez in there.
Speaker 3:Yeah, but to have Amelia Perez, again a movie that is a musical that doesn't have good songs, I don't think the cinematography was great, you know. I mean, yeah, there's a lot of choreography going on because there's it's a musical, but I just I don't.
Speaker 1:Would have loved to have seen, like Challengers in this spot, the Substance, the Substance, the substance. Just re-watched the substance.
Speaker 3:That's crazy great camera work in both those unbelievable camera work and like and again, knowing some of the stories from behind the scenes. You know corley, or corley, uh, you know planning out 10 days of like she would I think she called them tech days where all they would do is like macro lenses and extreme closeups on items or insert shots and you really feel that and it's such good, good stuff and throughout that film and like really gives that a style, a visual style. Also, I also just learned in the Substance they shot everything in France. The whole movie is shot in France. The apartment and I can't remember if I've said this on the pod yet, but the apartment has that, you know that huge window that looks out on the LA landscape. That is a fucking physical felt sheet with the LA landscape or city line or whatever you want to call it printed on it and like. That's just brilliant, it's absolute brilliance, because they didn't want to do it.
Speaker 1:Like on green screen.
Speaker 3:You know, on green screen and digitally and like that is cinematography, Like that making that work and making it look real.
Speaker 1:Giving your actor something to play with on set.
Speaker 3:That is cinematography, because that lighting has to be so good there to make that realistic and like that should be celebrated. Just that little nugget. So, yeah, it's disappointing's disappointing.
Speaker 1:But you know, the oscars disappoint every year this is the most disappointment I've felt in, probably since we've been doing this pod. You know the year that everything everywhere all at once was already fashioned to to win. I had accepted that and that was just kind of like whatever. I felt like it was a down movie year in general, so there's not like the need to really get too invested in it. But this year, when I am very passionate about wanting to see a film like the substance or dune part two or some of these other movies get celebrated, I'm just like I'm really dejected by by what they've done this year in leaving out movies like challengers and queer, just like civil war, so yeah zero nominations another great cinematography sound and sound.
Speaker 1:Yeah, a lot, a lot of movies that I'm like this could it just would have been so nice to see you know one of those movies that we just mentioned. Pick up two awards below or two nominations below the line.
Speaker 3:I think we've talked about this before, but, like the Oscars, should put in like a cap like oh, we have talked about this.
Speaker 1:You should be able to get more than eight nominations.
Speaker 3:Like let's spread it out. This is the night for to celebrate all the films that have come out in the past year. Like let's get as many films there. Get as many people from come out in the past year. Like let's get as many films there.
Speaker 1:Get as many people from different films in the building and also please for us who pay attention to this kind of thing, when you're when, when all of a sudden a movie is going to be made ineligible for a certain category and now maybe the information is out there and it's on me like maybe I need to do better and dig a little deeper. But just on the surface, looking at best original score, why is wicked here? How is this an original score? I get that the music, the instrumental music, for the film that's crazy is there, but like is.
Speaker 2:Is it though, or is it?
Speaker 3:just taken from, or is it just taken from the musical or is?
Speaker 1:it just songs from the music? Is it background music? Is it instrumental music from the Broadway production? I don't know. But regardless it's not better than what Trenton Atticus did on Queer, or it's not better what Trenton Atticus did on Challengers.
Speaker 2:It doesn't have an original song. Oh, original score.
Speaker 1:Best original score.
Speaker 2:Whoa, that's kind of see. That's weird because yeah, stephen schwartz did the musical and I'm not seeing the musical, so I maybe I like I'm missing something, but I don't know that that's legit well, guess what else is there?
Speaker 3:amelia perez, which is based on an opera now again. That is probably more original but, still, you're taking the, the skeleton of those opera songs.
Speaker 1:Yeah, if Denny's score, if the Hans Zimmer score from Dune part two cannot be nominated because he's using some of the same sounds um from this for some of the same segments from songs that were present in dune part one, then it like I get that and I understand that, but it should be the same thing. If you're basically just adapting or transferring songs over from an opera, from a broadway production and sure you're maybe re-recording or you're tweaking, you're doing certain things, it still doesn't fit that quote-unquote best original definition for me.
Speaker 3:I totally agree I will say I also just re-watched conclave music and that's great music is fucking awesome.
Speaker 1:It's literally if, if it wasn't for the music in that, in that film, the tension in so many of those scenes wouldn't be there the way it is, and so I do agree with that nomination. They're happy to see the wild robot here, you know. But there's just a couple, and that's the category Score. I care so much about that every year, so that was a bummer to see, I'm surprised your beloved Flo wasn't here for original score.
Speaker 3:Is there a lot of music in that Flow?
Speaker 1:doesn't have a ton of music, it's very impactful when it does come in, which I like to see that.
Speaker 1:The thing about Flow that I love seeing was it gets nominated not only for Best Animated Feature, which I think it has to be one of the top two or three films there, but it also gets nominated for best international feature overall from latvia, and I love seeing that because you know, amelia prez is probably going to take that um award. But from all from everything that I can decipher from best international feature, it is really really strong this year because you have I'm still here with a double domination best international feature, best picture flow. Best animated feature, best international feature the girl with the needle and the seed of the sacred fig, I know have great reviews and so, once again, I'm like amelia prez is probably going to win this award and it might be like the fifth, fifth, strongest film out of five here in this category. Um. So so again, happy, but super conflicted because of where I think the awards are going to end up, like the hands that they're going to end up in yeah, yeah, I do feel conflicted.
Speaker 2:I'm I'm really happy for the horror recognition.
Speaker 2:Um, you know that we're we're seeing but an alien romulus academy award nominated film no, sferatu, for I mean I love that, I mean I'm really happy to see that. But I just think that this is gonna be if, if the oscars go the way that we don't want them to go, you're gonna. I mean, they've already lost so much respect from, like, the general public, like I feel like I pay attention to so many people who are just normal movie watchers, like just not industry people, um, and they're just like, oh, the oscars are always a joke or all they're just you know they especially, and like I grew up loving the oscars and just I remember it was such a big deal and now I just feel like nobody really takes it seriously.
Speaker 2:And then this year it feels like the last straw for a lot of people. I mean, I cannot tell you how many like negative reviews I've seen of like people who are just like what are they doing? Like what's going on here? You, you know, and there's just a lot of I. I'm really pissed about the civil war snub because I just thought that was truly one of the best movies I'd seen all year.
Speaker 3:So much incredible filmmaking with that but let me ask both of you, two of my close friends who watch many, many movies have you ever heard or seen the movie the six triple eight?
Speaker 2:I sure haven't.
Speaker 3:No, I haven't, but Diane Warner did the she sang a song for it God damn I. I hope one day I get to meet, shake Diane Warner's hand because, she's got what?
Speaker 1:prolific 16,. I think yeah.
Speaker 3:Um unbelievable that she is nominated almost every single year for a song that is impressive.
Speaker 1:you know what else is really fun. Just looking through the nominations, I noted this I'm not a robot nominated for best live action short film, a movie that max and I got to cover at the Tacoma Film Festival this past year and it actually had a little correspondence with the director, and so really cool to see a movie that made the festival rounds this year really campaign and make its way all the way to the Academy Awards.
Speaker 1:So, really cool little moment there, also Nice. So yeah, that's going to be february 10th, I believe, is when the oscars are this year really is that true.
Speaker 1:March 2nd, march 2nd okay oh, yes, there we are at the dolby theater. Yes, um, so we have about another month for folks to campaign, really build their case, um, and for us to probably, you know, crank out one more predictions episode, and then, of course, we will have some sort of friendly wager that erica can get on yeah uh get in on for her first, first full season on the pod here yeah, a lot of fun for our oscar watching party.
Speaker 1:This, yeah, and this is going to be really interesting this year too, because am I going to feel good? Do I want to win the competition? Of course, especially after max dethroned me after a handful of years there, um, last year. But like, how many? How many awards am I gonna predict?
Speaker 1:it me like head over, head over heart, yeah, head over heart here right, it's gonna be tough, it's gonna be tricky, um, okay, so let's get to our most anticipated now. Let's switch gears a little bit for 2025. This is another kind of annual tradition that we've been doing here for a handful of years, max and myself, erica, we're happy to have you on to join in this tradition as well. Max, I'll start with you because we have been doing this here for a while now. I'll start with you because we have been doing this here for a while now.
Speaker 1:So, when you were looking at creating your list for this, for this episode, and the things that you're looking forward to most this year, this isn't really like a game. We're not trying to predict. Maybe you know, like, what's going to be the biggest box office draw of the year or what is going to have maybe double digit nominations next year at the Academy Awards, but in picking your films, have you kind of tweaked the way that you select these movies because you want them to do good? Or are they movies that you're just like I'm just riding with this one because it sounds wild and crazy and it's coming out in the middle of spring, but I don't care? Or are you like I'm going after my big guys. I want heavy hitters.
Speaker 3:This is what I'm looking forward to. I feel like I kind of split it okay. I mean yes and no. I I of course I want all these movies to do well, but there is definitely a like a film, student movie that I'm I'm going to, that I have on my list, um, and but I would, I would say the rest. The rest of the films are in in max fashion, kind of the my, my rider dies. You know they're back.
Speaker 1:This is a big year for your guys.
Speaker 3:Yeah for sure. I mean yeah, I mean we'll, we'll get into it, but like one that is not on any of our lists. I mean big Jim is back right. Another another trip to Pandora, uh, uh, avatar, fire and ash will be out in december and james cameron, once again, will prove that he is box office gold and that you can't stop him. Uh, and listen, I'm not that that hype train is is just always chugging along. So I can't wait. Can't wait to see that. But yeah, I, you, but yeah, looking at the bigger picture of 2025, I think we're going to have a really interesting year. And who knows, maybe I'll be completely wrong, like I was wrong about 2024, thinking that would be a down year, but I think there are some great, there's some great meat on the bone for this year, um, and also like some interesting. Even though there are like remakes or reimaginings or reboots, whatever you want to call them, there could be some interesting. I think they're in the hands of some interesting filmmakers. I agree um.
Speaker 3:So yeah, I'm fucking stoked. I can't wait. It's also going to be really interesting, and I don't know if I've said this on the pod, but I'm planning to Not officially, not officially. So here we go, listeners, this is official.
Speaker 3:I'm planning to move to LA in May and so I'm going to be in a place where you know I can see almost every movie that's going to come out, which is really, really exciting, but also like advertisements and billboards and posters and signs on buses are going to be in my face constantly. So it's going to be like a brand new experience about how, how I am intaking movies and like my hype meter Right.
Speaker 3:Like no, granted. Hopefully I'm very busy with work down there, but also like I'm going to be seeing this stuff in my real life every day, and that's that's also very exciting to my, my sister just saw an Anora screening this last weekend where sean baker did a q a afterwards and yeah, I'm so excited to to be close up close and personal with with all these people, uh, and hear them speak after their films. I can't wait very cool.
Speaker 1:Um erica, how did you go about creating your list, oh?
Speaker 2:well, you, well, you know, to be totally honest, I feel like, well, I was kind of mentioning to Alex before that I'm taking a different approach to film this year. I'm I'm very unplugged from the new releases. I mean, obviously there's there's some that I, you know, I've seen, you know, I know about that are coming out like more like the bigger releases. I mean, obviously there's there's some that I, you know, I've seen, you know, I know about that are coming out like more of like the bigger releases. But I have been on lists to to create my list and I really I'm going to try to stay away from like trailers as much as I can because I've, with my experience of last year, I had so many um, like I had high expectations for the year and and not that I was let down in any way, I had a really fun 2024 um.
Speaker 2:But I rec I recognized some patterns that I have with like with these new releases and um or just trailers and stuff and expectations, and so I think, like with when I was creating my list, I I really had to sit down and like research, like what's coming out and a lot of the stuff that that is like more that I've just that I've seen like like big hype, for wasn't really what I wanted to add to my list, because I don't know if I could fairly say that that was what I was most anticipating. But I'm still excited, and I know that like I'm excited for the year ahead, I kind of want to be taken by surprise, though, and so like, in creating my list a lot like I think I'm like looking at my list and two out of the five have trailers and I haven't seen any of them. Um, I actually have, I've watched part of both of the trailers, but I don't want to watch them because they are movies I am really excited for, um, but I'm more drawn to like the cast of all of these of my picks and I'm just I'm really curious to see how this year will shake out for me personally because of my some of like personal goals that I have for myself in the year ahead, and how I might kind of approach my film watching habits a little bit differently this year. Um, so, yeah, I'm I'm excited. We'll see what's to come.
Speaker 1:I'm. I'm going to try and take kind of some some resolutions that I have for myself as well and apply them to the movies that I really go after this year and especially for, like, the theater experiences that I have for this year, because not only do I not want to, let, let's say, another smile to moment happen where I neglect to see that movie in the theater just because I write it off as a sequel to a film that I was sort of lukewarm on the first time around, and so to pay more attention to like the discourse around movies like that when they come out right away, but then also to not overly invest in some of the the more lofty, you know, award aspiration type of films. Let those come to me as they will, because of course, it's like if Paul Thomas Anderson is making a movie, I'm going to see it, you know, but like I was kind of burned by Licorice Pizza a little bit, so just like to back off on that a little bit and maybe lean into, lean more into genres and filmmakers who I'm not as familiar with. Like we were just talking about a movie that I watched the other night, completely, um, by chance, game night from 2018, and I'm like I want to find a banger, I want to find the game night of 2025.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you know, like, and that movie might not we might not even know what that is yet, because so many films can take six weeks to shoot, three months in post-production and all of a sudden it's going to be out in august. You know, like, we might not even, and and, of course, like, I think we all are coming into this episode understanding that, like, these lists are incomplete. These are, this is the information and the data that we have to work with in the last week of january, but but I'm with you as far as, like, my, my movies are all. I'm not expecting that I'm going to give maybe any movie other than one on my list, like four and a half stars.
Speaker 2:I'm not really attached. I think I'm not really attached to any movies that I've seen, like for this year, obviously, I mean that you're anticipating?
Speaker 2:Yeah, that I'm anticipating yeah, like, and and that's just me like releasing expectation and just kind of trying to flow a little bit better, even though I I did have high expectations for last year and I it really didn't disappoint. I saw the most movies in theater that I ever have before and I was just, I had a really great time at the movies last year, and this is 2024 will be a year that I never forget. This year I, I would like to, you know, as Max said last year, touch grass a little bit more this year. Um, and just kind of um, let movies come to me and um, and I think, when I look back on last year, my, the movies that ended up being my favorites were the ones that did just kind of come to me like the substance and baby girl and um, and the first omen, like these are movies that I didn't really have any like weren't on your radar.
Speaker 2:Yeah, they weren't, darling strange darling oh my god, I mean yeah, just like I and and recognizing that pattern, I'm like, what did I do differently with that, as opposed to like I'm sorry, alex, but long legs, you know, max was there for my like extreme disappointment in that, um, and I, just I recognized what works and I'm like, okay, this is how I'm gonna go into this year and just, yeah, we'll just see.
Speaker 1:I like it all right. Well, do you want to start us off with your first movie?
Speaker 2:sure, um. Well, so I guess I'll start with the bride, um, which is a maggie gyllenhaal director writer, producer, um, on this movie. This is a Maggie Gyllenhaal director, writer, producer on this movie. This is a Bride of Frankenstein remake. Super curious about this, just because I've kind of caught wind that it's a little bit of a musical like shitting on Amelia Perez, but I'm curious about the musical aspect of this. But mostly I was really curious about the cast which we see Christian Bale as Frankenstein and then Jesse Buckley as the bride. But yeah, I mean, just it comes out the September looks like end of September release, which is that's kind of the new sweet spot for movies September and then early October.
Speaker 1:Which is that's kind of the new sweet spot for movies September and then early October.
Speaker 2:Yeah, we see a lot of like monster movies this year, it looks like. So I'm just curious about this because I like the fact that I haven't seen Christian Bale in something in a while.
Speaker 1:Did you see her directorial debut, the Lost Daughter, the?
Speaker 2:Lost, daughter. Yeah, I did.
Speaker 1:It's a great movie.
Speaker 2:So good, which is why I added this to my list, because I saw that was that last year, a year before two years ago yeah and um really enjoyed it and um yeah, so I I think just seeing maggie attached to this was like piqued my interest, so it's my first pick yeah, and it's gonna be really interesting because there's another Frankenstein movie coming out this year Guillermo del Toro.
Speaker 3:It'll be in direct comparison to that and two different, probably two different takes on that story, and that's really exciting. The first film on my list is definitely a film student pick. I don't know if I ever would have seeked this filmmaker out or be stoked for the next film from her, which is Kelly Reichardt's the Mastermind. Again, kelly Reichardt is just a huge. They teach you Kelly Reichardt movies in film school, whether it's meek's cut off or first cow or um you know, uh, wendy and lucy, um it. She's just a great independent filmmaker, portland-based. This looks like it's going to be probably the biggest opportunity she's gotten. It's starring Josh O'Connor, alana Haim and it's about a art thief, an art thief caper with the back backdrop of the Vietnam War. Very excited to see this again kind of. Probably, also, even though it's going to be her probably biggest, most mainstream movie. Also might be kind of a hard film to see, um, knowing, knowing her releases uh in the past. So very excited to uh to see what Kelly brings to the table.
Speaker 1:Yeah, ever since Meeks cut off, which I think is like 2014,. Maybe, I want to say maybe even earlier than that, she was somebody that was always sort of on the radar. And then First Cow, I think, was one, especially there during the pandemic 2010. 2010 was Meek's Wow, but then First Cow was really one of the bright spots of those pandemic years. I think I had that top five the year that that came out, and so, yeah, I'm I'm right there with you here on on the mastermind that's. That's one that I'm definitely anticipating as well.
Speaker 1:The first movie that I have on my list is actually out in limited release right now and goes wide this weekend. It's called Companion. It's directed by Drew Hancock, someone who does not have a very deep list of accomplishments when you look them up on IMDb or Letterboxd or anything like that. So excited to see what a young, new filmmaker can do here. And this is just because I'm so deep in the Sophie Thatcher hive, that just that season one of Yellow Jackets. The stock invested in her then is really paying off.
Speaker 1:It's interesting to see the heretic moment, kind of crescendo here in the last, with like two weeks or so there was so much talk that maybe Hugh Grant would get nominated for his performance in that movie. So I think more and more and more people were like continuing to watch that movie more than um, and it was definitely getting talked about more than it did like when it first released in theaters. And she's fantastic in that movie. Um, so really excited for this. This sounds like kind of a, a thriller um, with I don't know if there's a touch of ai to it. I really am not sure what's going on, because on the poster, sophie thatcher she, she is like the poster girl for the movie like this is her vehicle, along with um jack quaid, who I just feel like I.
Speaker 1:I want it to happen for jack quaid you know he's he's one of these guys that sure he's a cute little nepo baby, you know, and it's.
Speaker 1:You know, your mileage may vary on nepotism in Hollywood, but he's somebody that I just feel like in maybe like 2006, when we had more monoculture, that, like my, I was thinking like jack quaid would have been great on that 70s show, you know, and and that like he's very justin long and and that people or or like a justin long like he would have been somebody that like I could have said his name to like my mom and she would have known who he is, like she knew who tofer grace was or who wilder villamarama, what. Like he just would have been kind of one of these, these celebrities, one of these actors that people actually cared about and outside of maybe someone saying, oh yeah, he was, like he was in one of the scream remakes. You know, I don't really know if he has like the footprint that I want him to have yet, and so well, he kind of kills it on the boys.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's like a big thing which I haven't. I've only seen like the first season, I don't know one person that watches the boys so I don't know, but I know, I know it's popular.
Speaker 1:I know it's popular and so that's great that he does have his like his I don't want to call it niche, because I know that show is really popular, but that's good to know that he does have his like meal ticket right there. But now take that platform and continue to get into these, these genre pictures and stuff. So I mean, the log line for this is is brief, it's very short, but it's really enticing where it's just kind of like, you know, some rich playboy has a house at the lake and Sophie Thatcher and her girls go there and things go crazy or whatever, and I don't even know if that's really accurate or not. Again, like Sophie's face on the poster, her eyes are cut out and they're just all white, ominous, creepy. I'm in, and so this, yeah, comes, comes to town, I believe, this weekend, and so I'm really excited to check this off the watch list early on in the year yeah, this isn't one of those movies.
Speaker 2:I've also steered clear of the the trailer because I'm very intrigued and, um, it's being marketed like crazy right now, so we'll see. I'm curious about it. I love jack quaid. Um well, my next movie is die my love, um, by lynn ramsey yeah, yeah okay, cool, yeah, I um.
Speaker 2:I was looking through my list and stuff. I was like this is just a really standout movie to me just because of, like, the two leading characters alone. Rob pattinson you know he's gonna have quite the year and jennifer lawrence may play a married couple, um, and then also we have lakeith stanfield, which I am a big, big fan. Um, also sissy spacek nick nolte attached to it as well. Um, I guess it's like a, an adaptation from a book, like a french book, I think, and it takes place. It sounds like it's going to take place in like rural montana. Um, and dark comedy, horror is what it is, being um kind of marketed as. But sounds like jennifer lawrence's character is going to have, um, you have, some mental health issues. Her marriage is kind of on the rocks. It sounds like she's having an affair with Keith Stanfield and it's just a battle with her psychosis. I did not find a whole lot about this movie out there, but I'm very, very attached to it. So we'll see, we'll see, we'll, we'll see.
Speaker 1:Lynn Ramsey is a filmmaker who I feel like when, when she commits to a certain genre or theme or tone I guess is the best way to put it in her films she's very effective at it Like I think about, we need to talk about Kevin and you were never really there, probably her two best films, and both of those movies are darkly rewatchable, I would say, because of how effective they are.
Speaker 2:I've never seen any of her movies, but I've heard of those when I was like oh, who's Lynn Ramsey? And then I was like, oh, I've never watched those. But now and but like knowing that, like you said, the tone that's what made me add this movie to my list is I'm very intrigued.
Speaker 3:yeah just a great filmmaker and, yeah, go watch. Uh, we need to talk about kevin and you were never really there because cool they're fantastic I will a great scots woman yes, yeah um. My next film is from ryan coogler not doing a marvel project. We're very excited about that or a boxing movie or a boxing movie and nothing to do with ip this is an original idea from the mind of ryan coogler called sinners. Uh, it's more vampire.
Speaker 3:Uh, fic about, about those vamp fic about those bloodsuckers in the south during, uh, I think right after, the civil war. Uh and so, and of course starring his boy, michael b jordan man uh, playing a dual role of twin brothers. So you know that usually can go really good or really bad, we'll see what happens. But my girl, haley Steinfeld, is also there to catch us if things start to go haywire with the twins.
Speaker 1:Did he write the script for this?
Speaker 3:I believe. Let me double check.
Speaker 1:Writer Ryan Coogler, because ryan coogler writer ryan coogler. So I love hearing that, because for the longest time I feel like um post nomad land and and then kind of like the eternals disrupted things a little bit. But chloe xiao was supposed to be making a vampire western and so I was always really curious if that's what sinners became and if it was like, you know, like a script, like kind of like a blacklisted script that like nobody could get made or whatever and she. But so it sounds like if this is Kugler behind the story as well, then it's. It's probably different, but we, we have been wanting something in the vein of near dark or John Carpenter's vampires, like like, give us a Western vampire movie.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, I'm excited for that one.
Speaker 1:Uh, my next film is from a filmmaker, roman, roman Garvis, um, who directed a film that's been on my watch list forever and I've still yet to see, but it's Athena. And Athena, I know, is a very popular movie, um, on Netflix and kind of blew up during the pandemic when it came out, known for its tracking shots and and some of its choreography with with different like riot scenes and things like that. So Roman's an interesting filmmaker he's. He's making this movie with an all-star cast of folks that are equally accomplished and also very trendy, and so it's always interesting when a group of people like this come together.
Speaker 1:You have Anya Taylor-Joy, chris Evans, vincent Casal, selma Hayek, john Malkovich, but then you also have Charlie XCX and some rapper named Young Lean in this movie, and so I'm not sure exactly what to expect out of it. The quick log line is a failing movie star who tries to get back into the spotlight at a charity gala, gets un, gets upstage and kidnapped by radical voters, and so if this is a thriller comedy, I think I will like it less than if it is just like an action thriller. And so, again, without knowing too much, but but hoping for something that is pretty straight up and that maybe isn't going for laps laughs, but then still have somebody like John Malkovich or selma hayek in there to kind of be, you know like, if this is, um, if this is like savages selma hayek, then I'm in. And if and if john malkovich in this movie is like burn after reading john malkovich, where he's like the straight man but he's really quippy in his delivery, then i'm'm good, because Chris Evans and Anya Taylor-Joy as our two potential leads, I think that's a pretty good marriage right there for lead actor and lead actress. And then, yeah, just you know, a good, a good kidnapping film Sounds like an original story, so I'm, I'm in on I guess I didn't even say the title of this film.
Speaker 1:It's called Sacrifice and it began filming in november of 2024, so hopefully we get it out sacrifice right yeah uh well, my next pick is the new a24 movie um opus, office opus um, starring io.
Speaker 2:I can never pronounce her last name, it's like edabiri um, and then john malkovich, which he's sounds like he might, yeah I love him. Um, but yeah, this is a new a24 movie. This is one of those. I started to watch the trailer for it because it just came out last week and I started to watch it and they were showing too much and I was.
Speaker 2:I was already plugged in to the premise, but just kind of reading the little synopsis here a young writer is invited to the remote compound of a legendary pop star who is John Malkovich, who mysteriously disappeared 30 years ago. Sounds like it's like a cult thing happening there.
Speaker 1:You had me at cult John Malkovich, like I was a24 I mean, that's like this is what I'm talking about.
Speaker 2:Like I'm trying not to like have these expectations and trying to stay a little detached from the actual plot. But I'm already sold at that very little information and and yeah, it sounds like from what I did see from the trailer it looks just kind of like. It kind of gave me like the menu vibes a little bit, um, because it sounds like she's going to his, like she gets invited to whatever he like this compound and it just there's like a whole, there's a twist to it. So we'll see, but I'm really excited that comes out in March, so we don't really have a whole lot of time to wait. We also see Juliette Lewis, which I'm a big fan of, and Murray bartlett who, um, we like big white lotus fan. I know alex likes white lotus too. Um, so I'm, I love the cast.
Speaker 2:Um, the director is mark anthony green. I was kind of and he wrote it. Um, I don't really know, I don't think he's really done a whole lot. Um, I don't really know his work or anything. Um, I hadn't heard of him, but, um, yeah, writer director, sounds like it's gonna be a. Well, I'm, I'm curious, like I think I'll like it.
Speaker 3:I think I'll, I'm yeah, yeah, I've started to see the the trailers for this as well so I'm I'm keyed in on it, I'm excited to see it on the big screen and and kind of, I mean kind of one of the big like first releases of the year yeah yeah, uh, I loved bow is afraid a couple years ago and everyone who doesn't love it is just wrong.
Speaker 3:And ari aster, uh, is coming back to, unfortunately, to our small screens on Netflix, but hopefully we can catch this somewhere in a theater. But nonetheless, I'm excited to see a new Ari Aster film called Eddington, which follows a small town New Mexico sheriff with higher aspirations. This once again pairs him with Joaquin Phoenix. Emma Stone is in this film. Emma Stone is in this film. Awesome Butler's in this film. Pedro Pascal is in this film. Clifton Collins Jr Comes up. Alex's guy, luke Grimes from 50 shades of gray, yeah, is is here. And this is another, another Western from a non touruteur filmmaker, original written by him. Uh, I'm just, I'm always, always in the bag for ari aster, so cannot wait for that yeah, I don't know where I'm at with this one.
Speaker 1:I, I, I'm gonna be optimistic. No, I just don't know where I'm at oh where you're at with it with yeah, because part of me is just like make a million Midsommars.
Speaker 1:And then part of me is like you can't do that. You have to do other things and you're a creative person and I'm sure you have a million other stories that you want to get out there. But, yeah, that that little trifecta of a 24 baby boys that came up between Alex Garland, ari Aster and Robert Eggers I just like I don't know where I'm at with with any of them now, like I thought I hated Alex Garland now and then after Civil War, I'm like are you my favorite?
Speaker 3:out of the three.
Speaker 1:That's crazy, because coming off of Hereditary and Midsommar, Ari were like the golden child. And then I don't think he took a step back with Bo is afraid, but he didn't. He didn't go forward for me and he's still in a great place.
Speaker 1:He's still in a. He I think Edgar's, edgar's and and um Garland are are the two that I I think solve the most to prove for me right now. Um are the two that I think still have the most to prove for me right now, especially looking at future projects and where people are going with originality and adaptations and different things like that. So I love to see him, even if it's with Netflix. I love to see him sticking to an original story and an original vision. That cast just worries me, though. I'm just like the more that I see people like pedro pass. I'm just like will people take this serious?
Speaker 2:I don't know, we'll see.
Speaker 1:I will not accept any pedro slander I just I hope he, I hope he will actually be able to act in this, because I just think, listen, some people are some, some people just become a celebrity.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 1:I mean, and over an act, over being an actor, way too fast. And I'm not saying that Pedro flew too close to the sun or anything like that, but I mean gladiator gladiator too terrible it's yeah it's fair.
Speaker 2:I only say that because I would if that man proposed to me tomorrow. I would he's like hands down, my, my dream man.
Speaker 1:So yeah, I think he's going to be involved in something else that's going to be awesome this year the Last of Us season two.
Speaker 1:I mean and, and so I'm, I'm ready for that. But yeah, well, I'm Ari Aster, I'm still, I'm still in, we're still in. But yeah, well, ari Aster, I'm still in, we're still in. Okay, next movie for me is called Shell. Shell is directed by Max Mangala, who most people will know as the little kind of sidekick to the Winklevoss twins on the social network, so actor turned director here. This movie actually premiered at TIFF, the Toronto International Film Festival, in 2024.
Speaker 1:And I feel like is having a really tough time getting distribution because I can't find a release date for this film, although it's already gotten a lot of stuff written about it critically coming out of TIFF. I'm going to read this and it's's gonna sound like a substance ripoff and I hope that's why people aren't afraid to distribute it. But it almost sounds like the substance mixed with a greater conspiracy, like not like a james bond or mission impossible type film. But let's just see what you guys feel after hearing this paragraph of a synopsis. Struggling actress, samantha is given an opportunity to get a free trial at Shell, a pioneering health and beauty company that promises to keep its clients looking young forever. Samantha's life and career are transformed by the treatment and she develops a burgeoning friendship with Shell's CEO. When a string of former Shell patients go missing under mysterious circumstances, including popular social media star Chloe Benson, samantha starts to fear that she may be in danger herself. Here's your three lead actresses Elizabeth Moss, lover Kate Hudson, never seen before, to fear that she may be in danger herself. Here's your three lead actresses elizabeth moss, lover, kate hudson never see her anymore lover. And kaya gerber, who is one of the most beautiful creatures on planet earth and I think is perfect for a role like this.
Speaker 1:Um, this movie could end up being you have one of the hame sisters in here like a good little supporting cast underneath them. This movie could end up being really bad. It does not have a great rating already. On letterbox it's like 3.2 middle of the pack. But I'm just.
Speaker 1:It's always interesting to see when a movie has a big moment like the substance. Then you know what's the fallout from that and who are, what are the substance copycats gonna be, and so, if this turns in to kind of like a little neo-noir, oh, we have to solve a mystery. Um, you know of some, some, some people who have gone missing or who have tried this treatment before me and yada, yada, yada. I'm like I'm, I'm in, I'll be seated for this if we ever get it. I'm just. The whole distribution thing is really weird, the fact that it it played it to if last year and just has there's nobody attached to it yet as far as um distribution. So it's not a great um, but it's in the watch list. I'm looking at who else's watch list that it's in.
Speaker 1:It's some person on letterboxd, I don't know them personally and it's rachel macaulay and so like just the macaulays are in on on max, mingala and shell, so hopefully that is either good or like awesomely bad okay, well, um, my next one is a stop motion dark fantasy coming out of laika oh, yes, yes, yeah, uh, wildwood by director travis knight.
Speaker 2:Saw this on your list and then looked it up, I was coming out of Laika. Oh, yes, yes, I heard. Yeah, this is Wildwood by director Travis Knight.
Speaker 1:Saw this on your list and then looked it up, I was like, oh fun.
Speaker 2:I know I'm really excited and you know, laika, as we know, did Coraline and that's one of my all-time favorite movies. Travis Knight did Kubo and the two strings looks like another, like a film.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and, and he's the CEO of like a actually uh, which I'm just finding out. Um, but yeah, this movie takes place, has a killer cast. I just have to kind of read off some of these people Carrie Mulligan, mahershala Ali, jacob Tremblay, charlie Day Jake Johnson, jacob Tremblay, Charlie Day Jake Johnson. I'm super. I will say if there is a movie I'm attached to, it is this because I would love to, you know, just reignite my love for animation this year.
Speaker 2:Copycat, yeah, and I love stop motion, like fantasy that I just this really sounded like a beautiful movie to me and it's takes place. So Wildwood is sounds like, it's like a little place right out on the outskirts of Portland which, like studios, is actually outside of Portland side of Portland, and so it follows it. So this is actually a book adaptation. A young girl, prue, and her best friend, curtis, are drawn into a hidden magical forest after Prue's younger brother, mac, is kidnapped by a murder of crows who are led by the mysterious Alexandra Talking animals, bandits and more inhibit the forest, indicating Wildwood might have a frightening tone like Coraline. So honestly, it just sounds like right up my alley. Like I said, coraline is extremely near and dear to my heart and I never saw Kubo. I don't know that it was like something that I was really interested in, but, learning about Wildwood, I'm very attached to this idea so I have Coraline is still like ever present in in the youth today, which I think you'll be happy to know.
Speaker 1:Um, or you probably already do know, I ordered a bunch of vinyl stickers of of Coraline because you know, give them out as little incentives in school and stuff like that. About 15 of them are of the other mother and they're terrifying and they're like in an envelope in my desk because I'm like I can never accidentally give these out to a kid and then like get in trouble for handing out this like this horror propaganda on this like horror merchandise. So I will, I'll hook you up with some some pretty sickaline stickers next week.
Speaker 2:Coraline is very alive and I don't think it'll ever be Like Stumptown Coffee. Did this special edition cold brew can that had Coraline on it and I literally have it had a huge box office this year.
Speaker 1:There's art installations that travel around the country still. Yeah, it was in the top 10 for a couple of weeks last year in 2024 box office-wise it's amazing.
Speaker 2:So, uh, seeing more movies like come out from Leica are always exciting. They're really doing like awesome things down there.
Speaker 1:So a hundred percent yeah it's a great one.
Speaker 3:Uh, okay, this next movie? I don't. I don't know if we even know what this is called, because on IMDb it. We even know what this is called because on imdb it's called untitled paul thomas anderson event film. On letterbox it's called the battle of back tan cross. On the poster that was recently released it's called one battle after another. All I know is that pta is making a film.
Speaker 3:Uh, it's going to be an imax, his one. I think the first one of his films to to be filmed in imax and shown on imax. Uh, we've got, and we've got leonardo dicaprio in this film. Uh, and listen, I'm I'm a pta truther. Uh, licorice pizza did not leave a bad taste in my in my mouth. Um, I will be there day one, uh to to see this film and and hopefully see it multiple times. I cannot wait. Uh, one of the masters you know, uh, modern masters is is releasing a film this year. We're so excited, uh, so pta. Whatever the film ends up being called, uh, we can't. Is there a synopsis? Yet, no synopsis. I do have a running, a rumored running time 170 minutes, which is completely too long but nothing compared to the brutalist yeah, that's, that's true.
Speaker 3:After after surviving the brutalist I was at 215, 215 minutes. Yeah, yeah, feed me whatever. Um. But also some other players in this film is Regina Hall, sean Penn, elena Ham, benicio Del Toro, tiana Taylor so love Tiana Taylor. Yeah, cannot wait, wood Harris.
Speaker 1:Yeah, love seeing.
Speaker 3:Wood Harris in films, so cannot wait for this PTA.
Speaker 2:I'm always down for anything Leo's in, to be totally honest too, so yeah, Well, that's.
Speaker 3:The other great thing, too, is that Leo DiCaprio returns to the set in this.
Speaker 1:I don't want to say that Leo needs a quote-unquote good movie, but I feel like Leo needs a big performance.
Speaker 2:We need another.
Speaker 1:Revenant performance. We need a big Leoo performance.
Speaker 3:He seems to be the center of this film yeah all the marketing is centered around him.
Speaker 1:That's good um, and he looks ridiculous and I hope that means, I hope that means something still, because it didn't for killers of the flower moon, you know, like marketing wise, sure you know? Um, and I guess, like awards body, oh, you know, consideration or whatever. So I, I'm, I'm again hoping, truly hoping for the best for this film. Um, I just, yeah, is this a?
Speaker 3:it's a theatrical release you said right, imax, okay good august 8th.
Speaker 1:Good, good, good, good, okay, nice into summer, something to look forward to. Okay, my next two films are, if you know, sacrifice, shell, companion. I think those are gonna be fun. Those are gonna be like very pulpy. Um.
Speaker 1:My next two are are movies that I'm actually really excited for because they're directed by by kind of two of my guys. I was looking through and, um, you know, there's people that I'm obviously really interested in their career, like a PTA, like a Kelly Reichardt, other folks that I'm excited to see what they do Ryan Coogler, you know, like let's go, like let's keep making good movies. These next two for me are people that I, I, I truly have loved some of their movies and they're really, really important to me. So I'll start with no other choice. This is a new film by park chan wook. Park chan wook has been doing a lot of tv recently and and that's fine he's also been um kind of contracted out like um by apple just to like make these really long commercials that kind of turn into short films, and I don't fault him for that. I mean, we're talking about the guy that made old boy and stoker and the handmaiden which, in the last like seven years has become one of my favorite movies, like a top 100 movie for me, and so Park Chan-wook is somebody that I I don't think we've ever really gotten to do like a big episode on him before or something, but I would. I would love to.
Speaker 1:If the release of this movie is going to really turn into something. What I have right now for no other choice is that it it wrapped filming this month, in January of of 2025. So hopefully that means post-production and everything else can can get this film out to us this year. Um, uh, the, the. The cast for this movie is like a lot of his other movies um are, you know, international actors, folks that we don't have a very long, um standing relationship with? But the? The quick log line is after being unemployed for several years, a man devises a unique plan to secure a new job eliminate his competition.
Speaker 1:I'm, I'm in yeah, like knowing I I you know, decision to leave was another like, uh, one of those kind of forgotten about pandemic movies, I think was really really really strong, really really great, yeah, um, and so there's again, there's like all the reason in the world to believe that this movie is going to be really strong and really exciting. Um, you know, international cinema, something else we always want to champion on here and so really excited for that movie, fingers crossed that it's a 2025 release.
Speaker 3:Yeah, Park Chan-wook uhook much like pta, just kind of like a modern master out here at work and uh always got to make time for, for those guys when, yeah, guys and gals when they, when they put something on the screen, for sure well, my last movie is one that I am trying really hard to not get it like just leave all expectations at the door, and that is 28 years later.
Speaker 2:Um, directed by danny boyle himself. He's back, he's back, and we have our writer, alex garland, which I love. So I we get this movie officially in June. I mean, I am, there's a trailer out, I've seen a little bit of it and it looks sick, but I'm not watching anything else.
Speaker 2:I am not. I'm really just like, like I said, leaving all expectations at the door because I, 28 days and weeks later, are very near and dear to my upbringing and and into horror too. I mean these we're talking like og, post-apocalyptic, like zombie film, right, and like I, I love, I loved both. I'm really excited to finally see that this movie, you know, has a release date and you know I've it's been in talks for a long time. Um got an interesting cast. We have um. Who do we have? We have have Aaron Taylor Johnson. Looks like he is the main character, which I I'll leave my comments alone with that. You know, I'm kind of infamously not a huge ATJ fan, but we all do. We also have Jodi Comer, which I love her. We have Ray Fines love her. We have ray fines, um, and then I'm sure that we will get um a little appearance by um.
Speaker 1:Why do I always have a brain fart with?
Speaker 2:killing, killing. Yeah, we will there. There's definitely talks that he will for sure be in it, we just don't know in what regard. Um, so I'm I'm really like I can't lie, I'm really stoked about this, this movie. I think this will be an interesting start to summer and, um, I have high hopes just knowing that danny is coming back as the director, because he did direct the, the first one. Um, and then you know, like I'm team alex garland days. I'm really like about him. I'm loving just his, his vibe, his style. Obviously, like Civil War is one of my favorites, but seeing him as a writer on something like this is like exciting for me as a new fan of him. So, um, yeah, I don't really think there's like other introduction I need, because, I mean, I think most of us have seen 28 days later. It's pretty epic. So, um, yeah, we'll see what happens with this. What do you guys think about this movie?
Speaker 3:yeah, I'm excited. I the only thing I worry about is that this is the start of a of a trilogy. Yeah, and I don't want to be left, you know, edged, uh, but I'm very excited to see ray fines covered in blood walking through a skull forest me too uh jacked up that man can do no wrong um, yeah uh, so yeah, I mean fast zombies.
Speaker 3:Uh, 28 days later, as you said, also like danny boyle, another guy who, like you know what have you done for me lately? So excited to? Kind of excited to see him go back to the roots, but also, like I don't know, just excited to see that he's still making films, because he hasn't in a long time.
Speaker 1:I feel like the right. He did the train spotting 2 sequel um, which might have been his most recent film, I don't know. I think he's been doing a lot of TV as well. The, the, the Danny Boyle, alex Garland writer, director combo is as important to me as maybe like someone who grew up in the 80s with, like De Palma and Oliver Stone, making Scarface because Garland and Boyle are behind the beach. Alex Garland wrote the book, which was turned into the screenplay for the beach, and I know people laugh at the beach and they like to make fun of the beach. I did not know that the screenplay for the beach. And now I know people laugh at the beach and they like to make fun of the beach.
Speaker 2:I did not know that and I love the beach.
Speaker 1:The beach is an all-time alex mccauley certified banger oh, that's so good where like that I love alex even.
Speaker 2:I love alex, my friend, and alex garland even more now.
Speaker 1:That's so great he wrote the novel like he wrote the book for the beach, and then it's adapted into the screenplay that Danny Boyle directs with Leo and I think for so many different reasons.
Speaker 1:The beach is a fascinating, one of the most fascinating movies to ever come out, honestly, like in the 21st century, just because it's like three years post Titanic and so like Leo is a huge star, but he's not like the Leonardo Diaprio now that we're talking about headlining a pta movie 25 years later and is like the boldface capital, a list movie star celebrity that we kind of have right now, um, and then danny boyle to make to make that movie in a run of films that is still like, really, really solid. Like the first train spotting the beach 28 days later, comes a few years after that, and so like, really, really solid, like the first train spotting the beach 28 days later, comes a few years after that, and so like I hope that we can rekindle this, this magic that we once had, um, and turn it into a movie that I think is going to be huge. Like I think this movie do you have a release date for it?
Speaker 1:it's it's june 20th oh okay, this movie's gonna make 100 million dollars, oh yeah oh yeah, this could be like the biggest summer release oh, yeah, yeah that's awesome
Speaker 3:that's like I have butterflies yeah, and not the only garland properly property coming out this year warfare right another movie called warfare.
Speaker 2:Yeah I love him. I just love this guy like, oh man, he's really like like scratching an itch for me, like I don't know. I mean, I'm just really coming to like this alex garland like fandom for myself and I'm like, I'm on board, I I'm supportive of him uh, you know what I believe in.
Speaker 3:I believe our lives are the sum of our choices. Okay, and this summer we get to see the final choice that Ethan Hunt has to make.
Speaker 3:Yeah, this is true, tom Cruise is returning to the screen to once again save cinema in a time that we need people in the theaters more than ever. Mission Impossible the final reckoning will be released. This is it. This is the swan song I'm totally going in with. Like this, we will never see another mission impossible movie again, and I hope that's true. Yeah, to make this run, because what this is? Movie eight now in the series yeah, and I, I just I'm so excited.
Speaker 3:Uh, mission impossible will always get me in, even though dead reckoning was a little bit of a letdown again because of this whole one part, two part kind of thing that movies pull now.
Speaker 1:Which I guess we should now be what? Is the appendage on this Mission Impossible, the final Reckoning. So I guess we should refer to Dead Reckoning part one as the first Reckoning.
Speaker 3:Oh, they dropped the part one. Oh, did they.
Speaker 1:It's just called Dead Reckoning, that would have been so cool to have a piece of physical media that still had part one on it. Damn Really, huh, that's funny, they dropped it.
Speaker 3:In the trailer. I will watch every trailer. I will watch every featurette leading up to this. I mean, it's a mission impossible movie.
Speaker 1:Whose decision do you think that was?
Speaker 3:Tom, not Krasinski or what's the name? Joseph, uh, christopher mccorry, christopher mccorry, that's right. Yeah, yeah, uh. No, it was definitely tom. Tom pulls all the strings here. Christopher mccorry actually just gave a interview saying that one of the crew members like fainted during one of the stunts. Okay, uh, because of what tom cruise is doing in this film oh gosh I cannot wait to see that a little worried about a lot.
Speaker 1:That's great publicity. That's great publicity we're excited, we're. We're so jacked uh I think coming out of dead reckoning part one, no, the first reckoning I think, coming out of the first reckoning, we were both like we would have loved to have seen more submarine stuff.
Speaker 3:Yeah yeah, and I I think there's going to be a lot good, a lot of underwater stunts going on here, uh, in the arctic or in a pool in the back lot but yeah, wherever this submarine is. But yeah, I can't wait. Uh, in the trailer, tom cruise looks straight down the barrel at the audience and says I see you at the movies.
Speaker 1:I need you to trust me one last time and you know, you had, you had me, I need yeah yeah and I need.
Speaker 3:I need anything, jump how high, anything, yeah, so yeah, I mean it's gonna be a big dumb movie, but it's probably going to be my favorite experience at the theater. Yeah so.
Speaker 1:So that'll probably end up being the biggest summer release and it will be fun to see. It'll be fun to have a summer where mission impossible, where a mission impossible movie can play in the theaters for like eight weeks without being stymied by something like the barbenheimer movement. Yeah, because you know, thinking right now about how you saying like, you know, you'll potentially be in la for the release of this movie, and I know we, we caught half of the first reckoning at, uh, at the chinese theater, right, yeah, and and so I, you know, but that was, we were almost surprised that it was still, that it was still on the screen, even you know. And so to for this, for this to have a full summer, feels right, yeah, we owe it to Tom God. Just going back to the Oscars, remember when Top Gun Maverick was nominated for best picture?
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, we can't give Dune part two.
Speaker 1:It's, it's it's credit.
Speaker 3:It's unbelievable.
Speaker 1:Not that Dune part two isn't nominated for best picture, but like, what are we doing? Um, okay, my, my final film here that I'm anticipating this year at least that we're shouting out on this episode luca guadagnino, this guy doesn't know how to not make movies. Yeah, he's, he's continuing to crush it. He has a film coming out this year, called after the hunt, which sounds much more like a bigger splash and I'm not the huge, a huge, bigger splash kind of guy, but this sounds a little bit more like those those interesting interpersonal relationships that have a thrilling nature to them, aside from just like a dramatic or kind of like action pace to it, whereas so like, if you're going to say something like, um, you don't call me by your name is like sentimental and romantic. It's still a drama at its core but there's it's not really like thrilling in, in a sense, a bigger splash.
Speaker 1:A remake of Lapa scene, one of my favorite movies ever, does have some real intrigue to it because there's potentially a murder. You know that's going to take place in a film like that, and so Bones and all I think is this great, awesome horror outlier, you know, and that's not really the direction that this movie sounds like it's going in, but really excited to see what he can do with a premise like this. Finds herself at a personal and professional crossroads when a star pupil levels an accusation against one of her colleagues and a dark secret from her own past threatens to come to light. This sounds awesome not only because it's luca at the helm, but because your cast includes julia roberts, io edabiri, andrew garfield, michael stolberg and chloe 70 awesome oh yeah, I'm definitely there yeah.
Speaker 1:So set it on a university campus. Let's have people in rooms talking about steamy drama, you know, sexual accusations, throw in some some. There doesn't need to be like murder mystery or anything like that, but like just some thrills, some real stakes. This movie feels to me like it's going to have some real stakes and to see somebody like Julia Roberts who I wouldn't say is like, you know, in retirement or just kind of like off, you know doing whatever, making movies with George Clooney every five years or whatever, but it's just kind of like let's see someone like her come back the way that she did and leave the world behind and all of a sudden show us that like she's still got it, you know.
Speaker 1:And and can lead a movie and throw the fastball when you're working with someone like Luca, absolutely. So I love, I love the dynamics that we can get here between these actors in this film. Um, and you know, maybe we'll just maybe we'll decide next year that luca needs to be recognized for for his work. Um, if we don't, though, that's okay, we will continue to to bang the drum for for our guy luca here on the pod. So, really, looking forward to to that one, and I believe this movie, I this movie is almost guaranteed to come out this year, because filming wrapped in august of 2024, which once again just speaks to the prolific nature of this guy. He released two movies last year and he shot this film before we were even back in school in September. He's a beast, what the fuck man.
Speaker 3:He's a monster.
Speaker 1:It's awesome. Okay, so I texted you guys and I said just because we're a movie podcast doesn't mean we have to only shout out films.
Speaker 2:I'm so glad you said that too, because there's some good shows coming out.
Speaker 1:I think that, whereas I love the diversity of picks that we all gave here today, and I think that there's going to be a lot of room for growth in our anticipation as well, for different movies, like we talked about, that are just going to pop up in the middle of summer or pop up, you know, in spooky season next year some horror films that we don't even know about yet, and so, always excited for those films, um and and for upcoming projects that we don't quite know about yet, I think that this might be a better pop culture year than it is, at least right now. The the, the pulse reading that I'm getting is this is going to be a huge pop culture year and I think that's going to bleed over into movies. But just generally speaking, what else are we anticipating in 2025?
Speaker 2:I mean you mentioned it earlier the Last of Us 2. I'm literally replaying the video game as we speak. I'm on pause at my house right now. I love the Last of Us us. Are the games scary? It is truly. I have a pinched nerve in my back right now from playing it.
Speaker 2:I've played it a few times. Um, I've played the last of us like um a long time ago. I remember, like with like a boyfriend and watched him play. We kind of like took turns, but I, during covid, um, my friend and I, we bought the last of us two and um, yeah, it is very anxiety inducing.
Speaker 2:But if you like stuff like, if you like playing video games, like so do you know where season two is gonna go storyline unfortunately, I mean, yes, I do, and they're like, if you've played the game, you know like some shit goes down and it's crazy because, um, we have I don't want to spoil anything just because, um, but the casting is already out there and we have like a new, you know girl on the scene and, um, you do play her character on the video game. It's kind of split between the two and it's interesting. So I do, unfortunately, know what goes down. It's going to be a. Really, if they follow the video game, this this season will be wild.
Speaker 1:That's what I'm hoping for, because my one gripe with season one was that I felt like the stakes weren't always there, because I always felt like, like our two main characters at the end of season one would still be together, like we're going to get back together.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:In season two. From what I'm hearing, it's like that might not be the case, so I'm excited for there to be this element of of surprise behind some of these episodes.
Speaker 2:Have either of you.
Speaker 1:I've never played one of your games.
Speaker 2:Have you played the game?
Speaker 3:I've played the first one. I've never played the second one Do you know I know, yeah, you do know,
Speaker 1:Okay, how do you know what are you doing? You know there was a time where I was very plugged into game culture.
Speaker 2:I mean I think that when part two came out, I mean there's definitely like like spoilers ahead. I'm not gonna tell you what happens, but I will just say like there is something really jarring that happens pretty early on in the game and that went viral like around like during the time, and it was a big deal.
Speaker 2:The last of us is a wildly successful video game and, um, when part two released, it was just there was so much hype. It was that came out in 2020, I believe, and um, yeah, it was, it was a big deal and so, yeah, there it's, it's I'm. I love that there are people who've never played the game, who have, who are super tapped into the show, like my dad loves the show, but he has no idea like video game adaptation yeah, and he's like wait.
Speaker 2:Like I, I'm so excited to see what happens for part two and I'm just like, well, buckle up, friend, it's gonna be wild.
Speaker 3:I do love that. Uh, caitlin devers, yes, joining the show. Because c because Caitlin Devers was my like fan casting for Ellie. So the fact that she is in the show now as someone else.
Speaker 2:It's interesting. She's the character that like yeah, so it's an interesting cast choice.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 3:I know I could get so hyped about it, but I'm excited about that show okay uh, I'm very excited about night of the seven kingdoms oh, the next got another got spinoff. Game of thrones is kind of one of the only tv series I really keep up with these days. So, uh, I will always, always watch stuff from that universe.
Speaker 1:Where are we in this?
Speaker 3:This is the Dunk and the Egg. I believe it's a prequel to the Game of Thrones, but I think it is what did you say?
Speaker 1:What Dunk?
Speaker 3:Do you remember Dunk and the Egg?
Speaker 1:Dunk and the Egg Dunk and Egg Dunk and Egg Dunk and Egg no.
Speaker 3:I think it was brought up during Game of Thrones.
Speaker 1:Okay.
Speaker 3:It's a story, so it's a prequel.
Speaker 1:It's another prequel, okay.
Speaker 3:I think it's maybe even before House of Dragon.
Speaker 1:Okay.
Speaker 3:So they're going further back, okay, all right. We're in Westeros, though we're definitely house of dragon, okay, so they're just they're.
Speaker 1:They're going further back, okay, all right.
Speaker 3:Yeah, we're in westeros though we're definitely in westeros okay awesome with with like no dragons probably no, I think, I think there are dragons okay I'm in yeah, I'm in.
Speaker 1:I'm not, it wasn't a big like house of dragon. I couldn't really get into house of dragon, but that's a common statement and I think the consensus is like season one you got to push through about five to six episodes, which is like kind of an indictment on your storytelling and like your pacing when you tell people like you just got to commit five hours of your life and then it gets good, but like Once it jumps in time.
Speaker 3:Yes, yeah, I mean.
Speaker 2:I know people love it. I've and I'm a huge. I love game of thrones, but I don't know yeah, um, I have a few things here.
Speaker 1:The first one that I want to talk about, um, is really exciting because the first, the first chapter of this experience begins next week, and that is the weekend releasing his new album hurry up tomorrow oh, we're going album I'm all pop culture, all pop culture the reason why I mentioned this, though, is because the weekend who is a a pioneer in the music industry and who is so tapped in to different creative influences, um, um, you know he was somebody that paid a huge tribute to David Lynch when he passed away, and so many of his music videos have been fashioned off of themes from David Lynch movies. Um so, and you know what he did and what with Sam Levinson on the idol has been mocked and ridiculed, but, like you love when people just take chances and go for it, so I'm really excited to see kind of the lyrical themes of his new album, hurry Up Tomorrow, which comes out next week. But I'm almost more intrigued at the film that is going to accompany this release, which is is also titled Hurry Up Tomorrow. It's directed by a guy named Trey Edward Schultz, who directed the A24 film Waves and it Comes at Night, which are movies that I think are pretty successful.
Speaker 1:It Comes at Night doesn't fully get there for me ever, but it's one of these weird movies that, every five years, i'm'm like maybe I'll revisit it and finally catch what I was missing, kind of like Jordan Peele's Us, and I'm like no, my problem. The problems that I have with it are still like there and valid, but it's a really interesting movie, so that's fair Waves is amazing, though Waves is awesome.
Speaker 1:So Trey Edward Schultz, interesting filmmaker the Weeknd, is starring in this film with Jenna Ortega, barry Keoghan and Charlie D'Amelio, and so, again, just like we're going, very we're going, we're like playing to the TikTok babies, but also like a psychological thriller and an extension of the Weeknd's upcoming album of the same name. Let's go Like we could be spending our money making, you know, another movie about thanos, and I'm just, I'm happy that there's people that are interested in doing things other than that, and so I don't know who does this. The beatles yellow submarine, like who, who releases an album and then is like we're gonna also do a movie. So I'm really, really excited for that. Um, as a huge weekend fan and and to see what you know, we, we put on the big screen and then mentioned it earlier that I'm completely in on um, along with, you know, a million other people. You know super successful show, but cannot wait for this season in Thailand.
Speaker 1:Um, for a few reasons Carrie Coon as one of the lead actors in it, someone who, going back to the leftovers, just like been in love with her forever. So Carrie Coon being in the cast, lisa from black blackpink, um, can't wait to see what she does. Hbo has tagged a lot of the girls um, from that kind of k-pop group and you know jenny was in the idol with the the weekend that I just mentioned, and now lisa getting to be in this one. I'm really excited to kind of see their careers start to transition onto um, the silver screen and so that that'll be really fun and interesting.
Speaker 1:And then, um, the nine inch nails are going back on tour this year. Guys and I already got tickets and so that's like huge bucket list to see Trent um you know Atticus joined the group about 10 years ago or whatever it was, and so like to see these guys hopefully not only play nine inch nail songs that I grew up loving, but also like, can we get some challenger score in there? Can we get some like social network score in there? Like it'd be really cool to see him kind of touch everything. So a lot of stuff going on in pop culture that that I'm excited about this year, even going back to video games, like if we get Grand Theft Auto 6, am I going to play it?
Speaker 3:Probably that would be the biggest that might be the biggest moment in pop culture, yeah totally For the whole year it will be.
Speaker 1:We can't do a most anticipated episode of anything media related and not talk about Grand Theft Auto 6, because this game's been anticipated for like 10 years. Yep, it's going to be huge.
Speaker 2:I'm just trying to get tickets to see Kendrick guys, that's all.
Speaker 1:I care Kendrick and Tyler, my two favorite rappers of all time. Kendrick doing the Super Bowl. Kendrick doing the Super Bowl, don't.
Speaker 2:I know it. With my girl SZA.
Speaker 1:SZA. Yeah who he's going to be on tour with. Great music tours this year.
Speaker 2:I know great music tours this year. I know um, but yeah, there's, it's a, it is a good, like pop culture year um another, a couple more movies to just shout out that are really on my on my watch list um yorgo's new movie begonia. After reading like the tagline for it, I'm really I don't know anything about this two conspiracy obsessed young men. I'm already sat kidnap the high-powered ceo sat of a major company, convinced that she is an alien intent on destroying planet earth.
Speaker 2:I'm your ghost interesting yeah, another one too, yeah he's really he's like up there with um luca look with luca, you know in my eyes, like when you're talking about him I'm just thinking of yorkos, because he's just always like the firing rate yeah yeah, but that movie is definitely on my radar.
Speaker 2:Um, I've got a couple other ones too. Like, um, there's a movie coming out called love me it. It has like really like mixed reviews, but I'm really interested in it. It has Steven Yeun and Kristen Stewart. They apparently like spans the time of like billions of years, it's it looks really profound. I know a lot of people are kind of talking about it being like like what the fuck is this? But it's like they literally start off as like a buoy and a satellite. They meet online after human humanity's existence and then it kind of like they learn what life was like on earth and then they're also kind of discovering like the meaning of life and love and the two it's I don't know. I think it looks really cute, but I have read some reviews and people are just kind of like this was not like. This was kind of a swing and a miss. But I'll still keep my eye on it. I'm.
Speaker 2:I love Steven Yeun and and seeing the two of them together is very interesting to me, because Kristen Stewart is kind of showing me that she can really like kill it on screen, like I loved her last year in Love Lies Bleeding. Looks like an interesting role for her to be in. And then there's something else that I was really oh, the monkey.
Speaker 2:You know we haven't talked about this and I know I'm kind of like a long legs hater, but this is where I'm like. There is a pretty long teaser for this out that you can watch and this comes out like next month, I believe next in. February and I have. I really don't know anything about this, but I'm going to. I'm going to give it a shot.
Speaker 1:Could be the first of two Osgood Perkins films this year, as well. He has one called Keeper.
Speaker 2:OK.
Speaker 1:It'll be released later in the year, I believe.
Speaker 2:And I think the monkey is based on a Stephen King yeah, short story, short story.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, I had another one from. This is actually on my most anticipated 2024 list and this, the movie just didn't come out, and so hopefully that means it doesn't sit in in post-production or distribution hell for you know, another two years, um, but jim jarmusch is hopefully going to release father, or get to release father, mother, sister, brother this year, and so I'm really looking forward to that as well. Um, and then a couple of just kind of like trashy ones, like really excited for Scott Derrickson's the gorge with, uh, anya Taylor, joy and miles teller, our little group chat with our buddy Marcus, has kind of been popping off about what that movie um could be about.
Speaker 1:So that that's exciting. There's a few movies that either got pushed to 2026, julia Ducourneau's new film with a 24 alpha I wanted to talk about on this episode, but I think that's been pushed. One that I'm really excited for, victorian psycho, which is from Zachary Wigginigan, who directed one of my favorite movies, um of this of this decade, um sanctuary. He is teaming back up with margaret qually for a film um that also stars thompson mckenzie and I believe that, um, this could be a vampire story. Um, it's kind of what it sounds like.
Speaker 2:So that's this year hoping for this year.
Speaker 1:I've seen some things say 2025. I've seen some things that say 2026. So, um, you just kind of never know this early on in the year. Um, and then the. This is this is the one. This is the one when, when flesh of the gods by panos costamos comes out, this is the one where I will be there with you as an Oscar Isaac fan. I will be there as a Kristen Stewart fan, like I think this is maybe another vampire movie. Yeah, Um so give me.
Speaker 1:Flesh of the gods? Yeah, give me. I think I think Victorian psycho might be more of a cannibal movie than a vampire movie. Um, just from what I'm kind of reading. But like there, in the next couple of years, I'm telling you the genre movies, just like yeah the monster movie is alive.
Speaker 3:I mean, I can sit here and list all day uh, jurassic world rebirth by Gareth Edwards.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you kidding me, I'm down.
Speaker 3:I love that pick as a director, and you've got Scarlett Johansson, mahershala Ali.
Speaker 1:Mah I'm down.
Speaker 3:I love that pick as a director, and you've got Scarlett Johansson, Mahershala Ali. Mahershala Ali is playing a Dr Loomis in this movie, which you can't do but like.
Speaker 1:I'm here for it. Adopted son of Malcolm McDowell, I guess From the Rob Zombie Halloween movies. Yeah, and Donald Pleasance yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3:Okay, predator, yeah, yeah, yeah, okay. Uh, predator badlands yeah, I'm excited for that. Yeah, um, famous is a comedy coming out by jody hill starring zach efron and bill pullman. Can't wait for that. Uh, roof man from derrick.
Speaker 1:Uh, clan france, uh who, oh, derrick's of france. So who did? Who did? Place Beyond the Pines? Yeah, place Beyond the Pines and Blue Velvet. Blue Valentine.
Speaker 3:Not Blue Velvet, Blue Valentine.
Speaker 1:Yeah, great director, who we haven't heard from in a long time. Right, what's that called?
Speaker 3:It's called Roof man, roof man.
Speaker 1:Starring Channing Tatum.
Speaker 3:Interesting yeah.
Speaker 2:Oh, absolutely.
Speaker 3:I Want your Sex from.
Speaker 2:Greg Ariake.
Speaker 3:Matt Rush told me about that film and said to shout it out. I Love Boosters from Boots Riley F1, starring Brad Pitt. Jay Kelly is a new Noah Baumbach movie. Black Bag is another Soderbergh movie. Blue Moon is a Linklater movie. Oh I did see that. Yeah, the Running man is a remake from Edgar Wright and starring Glenn Powell, highest to lowest. Highest to lowest from Spike Lee and. Denzel Washington.
Speaker 1:Remaking the.
Speaker 3:Kurosawa film Good Luck, have Fun, don't Die. Starring Sam Rockwell, directed by Gore Verbinski. Welcome back to the movies, gore Verbinski. What's this called? Good Luck, have Fun, don't Die. Who else is in it? Sam Rockwell?
Speaker 1:I don't need to Haley.
Speaker 3:Richardson.
Speaker 1:Haley Lou Richardson.
Speaker 3:Michael Pena.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yep.
Speaker 3:I'll watch anything with Haley Lou I don't watch anything directed by Gore.
Speaker 1:Are we so excited for?
Speaker 2:this year yeah.
Speaker 3:I'm telling you, wait a sec.
Speaker 2:Okay.
Speaker 3:I don't want to get like too high, but I'm pretty high on this year Weapons by Zack Crager, who of course did barbarian. Oh yeah, yeah, uh yeah, I I don't know man, I I'm just, I'm excited, plus like. And then there's, of course, sad fee brother movies, movies coming out right both separately, right both separately. The smashing machine, which I believe is a boxing movie starring, or an mma fighter, a uf UFC movie.
Speaker 3:And then Marty Supreme starring Timmy so yeah, you know, I really think Mickey 17 might actually release at some point it's like on track to release right March 17th or something that movie looks goofy as hell, but well, I had no, as something else I was talking about.
Speaker 1:I had no idea how goofy this movie was gonna be for it?
Speaker 1:I do not think oh, maybe, maybe, yeah, yeah, with jesus I don't know I don't know about mickey 17 yeah, yeah, I don't know either which is so weird, because normally I I mean like for the longest time I am like the pied piper of do not watch trailers, like follow me to the lobby or we'll do whatever. For I didn't actively watch it, but it just came on while I was watching, uh, the eagles game the other day and I was just like, oh, this is not the tone that I thought this movie was gonna have.
Speaker 3:So, yeah, mickey 17 a little bit more of a comedy and it's. It's worrisome that it's been moved around so many times.
Speaker 1:Right, that's what Eric and I were talking about.
Speaker 3:And like and Robert Pattinson making choices. Yeah, I'll be there.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I, what I need to do is I need to go back, we'll see. It could be. You know, brothers just doesn't know how to market this, this film. But like I can remember the parasite trailer, but like I need to go back and watch the trailer for something like snowpiercer and like what was the tone that was trying to be conveyed in snowpiercer? Because I could almost see how, like you could cut a trailer for that movie together to try to tilda swinton and you could try to almost make it look like, um, you know, like a Mission Impossible kind of movie, which is so not the vibe of that film. It is way more about class war and all different types of things and being like a post-apocalyptic movie. So yeah, I don't know, maybe that movie is just not being marketed well.
Speaker 3:We also get a Wes Anderson movie this year. Damn the Phenation Scheme, which is a, it will be.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, we're in that. Yeah yeah, scheme, which is a uh, it'll be. Oh yeah, we're in that.
Speaker 3:Yeah yeah, we're all in that movie yeah, everyone in hollywood is in that movie.
Speaker 2:I'm pretty sure a crime, crime movie, sure in wes anderson's now, can't wait can't wait we've got quite the year ahead of us if all those movies come out like how do you find a friday for?
Speaker 3:every single one of those movies.
Speaker 1:There's going to be a lot of competition, Absolutely Box office. A lot of competition.
Speaker 2:I'm sitting over here thinking of how I started this episode, saying I'm going to touch grass and just balance my time, and I'm like you guys are throwing all these movies and just stuff to look forward to and I'm like, oh, fuck, was the last Gore Verbinski movie a cure for wellness?
Speaker 1:Because if so, that's wild. That's been like 10 years since we've had a Gore film.
Speaker 3:Yeah, Gore Verbinski.
Speaker 1:I will say and it's too bad, because our I would have made us rerecord the movie draft from 2005 care for wellness was was it damn um 2016, 2016. Okay, um 2006 movie draft. Number one overall pick is pirates of the Caribbean dead man's chest If.
Speaker 1:I get it um, we just fucking. I love gore. Okay, um, um, wow, lots to look forward to. Um, as for what's next, here on the pod, we will be discussing a film that we're all collectively anticipating, that we did not mention on this episode. Um, for you know, on purpose here, uh, steven soderbergh's presence. Um, you know, we've seen soderbergh do a lot of different things in his career, but directing a straight up horror film. I know he did Unsane, which is a fun little thriller shot on an iPhone, but this I I don't. I get the feeling that a movie like Presence is a pitch that we haven't seen him throw quite yet. So really excited for that. And then we also will celebrate his work by returning to the draft room and conducting the Steven Soderbergh film draft. Speaking of consensus number one overall picks. Do we think there's one in Steven's career?
Speaker 3:Man, I don't know. Sex Lies and Videotapes is another film, student film, that is another one that is taught constantly in every type of class you take in school um and then you have I mean you have the ocean.
Speaker 1:Oceans 11 is maybe just like one of the most crowd-pleasing movies of the last 40 years.
Speaker 3:Totally, it's good out of sight, fucking rocks out of sight really good.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I don't know kimmy best movie of the 2020s kimmy magic, mike, magic, mike the guy has done it all I can't wait to talk about it?
Speaker 1:he's, he's yeah documentaries. Lots of good stuff. Bird on wire is awesome, um, okay, so steven soderbergh next week. Until then, follow, excuse the intermission on instagram and the three of us on letterboxd to track the movies that we are watching between shows, and we'll talk to you next time on eti, where movies still matter oh my god, sorry, well just just look for that spike and you'll know you'll know when to go in and cut all part of the plan.
